What type of running gear ?

delawareMatt

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I purchased an old wagon running gear with the intent to build a hay wagon bed on it. The rims are shot and need to be replaced. I though the rims were a 5.5 inch bolt circle. Turns out I was not that lucky - the rims are a 5.75 inch bolt circle. I do not know the manufacturer of the running gear - no decals or plates on the gear. There is some residual red/orange paint. The running gear is equipped with a hoist - also no decals or plate on the hoist. I have attached some pictures. I am trying to figure out where to get replacement rims. 5.75 bolt circle is not standard. Does any one know the manufacture of this running gear? Since I am having so much trouble finding rims, I am considering cutting the centers from the old rim and welding those centers in new blanks. Any help in identification or advise on this project is appreciated.
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Coop and was orange. And you will never find rims made like that with the grease cap built in. Haven't been made for 50 years. That is a common way to repair rims. Those should be 16" rims and if you can get the old rim off without damaging the center you will be lucky and then you might be luckey enough to find a used rim with the correct depth of the drop center to fit tight to the center. Best was to fix is take someplace with a lagth large enough to cut the old rim off and try the center to what ever good rim you can find no mater if it is 15" or 16" because I am guessing you will have to buy new tires anyway. Orignally the tires would have been either 6:00 x 16" or 6:50 x 16" in probably a 4 ply but a 6 ply could have been a possiblity. A wagon I have instead of the 5 lug like you have it has the more common 6 lug wheel. One of them has been cut down on a lagth like I said about and has a 15" tire on it and the other 3 are 6:60 x 16 6 ply implement tires. But all the rest of the rims have been welded yp where the bead broke off the side of the rim.
 
(quoted from post at 14:56:24 04/03/15) Coop and was orange. And you will never find rims made like that with the grease cap built in. Haven't been made for 50 years. That is a common way to repair rims. Those should be 16" rims and if you can get the old rim off without damaging the center you will be lucky and then you might be luckey enough to find a used rim with the correct depth of the drop center to fit tight to the center. Best was to fix is take someplace with a lagth large enough to cut the old rim off and try the center to what ever good rim you can find no mater if it is 15" or 16" because I am guessing you will have to buy new tires anyway. Orignally the tires would have been either 6:00 x 16" or 6:50 x 16" in probably a 4 ply but a 6 ply could have been a possiblity. A wagon I have instead of the 5 lug like you have it has the more common 6 lug wheel. One of them has been cut down on a lagth like I said about and has a 15" tire on it and the other 3 are 6:60 x 16 6 ply implement tires. But all the rest of the rims have been welded yp where the bead broke off the side of the rim.

Thanks for your insight.
 
Cockshutt would just be a newer version of the Coop and painted red. Red after 46, orange before.
 
This vintage replacement black steel wheel from Omix-ADA measures 16-inches X 5.75-inches and fits 41-71 Willys and Jeep models. You can buy these for $ 132.07 on E-bay or scour the local salvage yards.
 
This vintage replacement black steel wheel from Omix-ADA measures 16-inches X 5.75-inches and fits 41-71 Willys and Jeep models. You can buy these for $ 132.07 on E-bay or scour the local salvage yards.

Go to thinking, I'm not saying these will fit, but the 5.75 was used other than wagons, so here's one to look for.
 
(quoted from post at 13:00:02 04/03/15) I purchased an old wagon running gear with the intent to build a hay wagon bed on it. The rims are shot and need to be replaced. I though the rims were a 5.5 inch bolt circle. Turns out I was not that lucky - the rims are a 5.75 inch bolt circle. I do not know the manufacturer of the running gear - no decals or plates on the gear. There is some residual red/orange paint. The running gear is equipped with a hoist - also no decals or plate on the hoist. I have attached some pictures. I am trying to figure out where to get replacement rims. 5.75 bolt circle is not standard. Does any one know the manufacture of this running gear? Since I am having so much trouble finding rims, I am considering cutting the centers from the old rim and welding those centers in new blanks. Any help in identification or advise on this project is appreciated.
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s it ok to cut off the old studs and re drill the new bolt pattern between the old holes then press in new studs?
 
(quoted from post at 17:35:21 04/04/15) Can you replace out hubs and wheels with a standard bolt pattern?

I suppose I could do that. The existing hubs are in good shape but I assume I could replace them with hub that are a standard bolt pattern. and then use rims that correspond to the "new" hubs. Thanks
 
The bearings would not be able to find a different hub to fit and if you did drill for a different wheel you would end up with a different problem as the hub has no grease cap that most are familuar with as that closed center rim is the grease cap and is required to keep the dirt out of the wheel bearings. And you all know what dirt mixed with grease in any bearing will do, ground out bearing. Also you all know how dirty it is around the farm so why would any body advise a solution that would only create a different problem? The only good solution is replacing the rim on the center. And be hopeing your wheel bearings are good as they probably would be hard to fine replacements let alone the grease seal being it would also be a odd size. Save yourself future headakes by not trying to put a open center wheel on there.
 

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