(quoted from post at 22:03:25 01/27/15) Whats the difference. Ive used the old flat metal lacings, and the new round wire lacings.
(quoted from post at 08:25:17 01/28/15)(quoted from post at 22:03:25 01/27/15) Whats the difference. Ive used the old flat metal lacings, and the new round wire lacings.
These are the Alligator lacings. They are riveted in place not crimped.
(quoted from post at 07:55:50 01/28/15)
IIRC the newer riveted lacings have a size minimum for the rollers. IOW, if the min is 6" and you have 5" rollers they aren't going to last. The rivets are nice but I've had conventional and riveted running side by side and their isn't a lot of difference in longevity, at least for me.
The original post is for a New Idea baler its differnet from the green machine.(quoted from post at 14:58:58 01/28/15)
Leroy
This is a schematic of the belt routing on a JD baler. If one wanted to put continuous belts on it one would need to remove 12 rollers. New Idea baler may have less rollers.
(quoted from post at 12:56:22 01/28/15)
This is a schematic of the belt routing on a JD baler. If one wanted to put continuous belts on it one would need to remove 12 rollers.
New Idea baler may have less rollers.
/quote] The original post is for a New Idea baler its differnet from the green machine.
I had the bigger IHC baler and it baled my cow hay. The soft center is ok. Is there a big Difference in the price between the 2 styles of belts. I used the lace belts on mine when I needed some replacements. Good luck on it.(quoted from post at 02:50:36 01/29/15) Thanks for the replies.
The new idea has 4 sets of belts. It's only necessary to pull out 2 rollers at a time. Some of them are just "idlers" and are pretty easy to change out the bearings. The driven ones are more trouble, not something you want to be doing when there is hay down! One thing (or rather, one of the many things) I just can't understand is why they use a bearing with a hex center hole. You can't tighten it on the shaft and they're kind of expensive and a little hard to find. This baler has been around the world but it does ok for our little farm and personally, I prefer the "soft" center bales.
(quoted from post at 11:11:37 01/28/15)(quoted from post at 07:55:50 01/28/15)
IIRC the newer riveted lacings have a size minimum for the rollers. IOW, if the min is 6" and you have 5" rollers they aren't going to last. The rivets are nice but I've had conventional and riveted running side by side and their isn't a lot of difference in longevity, at least for me.
I've baled 19,000+ bales on original lacings on my present JD baler. I can't find roller diameter for the smallest roller on my 467 but I'm fairly confident it's smaller than 5 inches in diameter. I will attempt to measure a roller later today I know the brgs for smallest roller are 3.543 IN outside diameter.
(quoted from post at 09:33:37 01/29/15)
If you go to the lacing manufacturers website they list recommended minimum sizes. If yours work for you that great, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just pointing out that some aren't designed or suggested to use below a minimum roller diameter. I' sure JD researched the subject thoroughly before using whatever kind of lacing they used.
(quoted from post at 13:59:58 01/29/15)(quoted from post at 09:33:37 01/29/15)
If you go to the lacing manufacturers website they list recommended minimum sizes. If yours work for you that great, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just pointing out that some aren't designed or suggested to use below a minimum roller diameter. I' sure JD researched the subject thoroughly before using whatever kind of lacing they used.
Evidently you didn't read the previous reply of mine where I admitted I made a mistake when I stated Alligator instead of Mato such as JD baler use.
(quoted from post at 07:40:52
And again, I'm not arguing with you. Just passing some info along based on mistake I made.
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