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Old 1940 plowing demo movie, Silent on U Tubes

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Farmallb

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I saw this silent movie made in 40 I think it is put on either by a collage or by tractor dealerships. It shows a Oliver that I think is a 70 and a MM that might be an early R. Whatever, They look to be 2 plow tractors.
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They are showing them using 1 bottom plows, with a section of rotary hoe alongside. They are going real fast. Im wondering if the collages was trying to show farmers that they could plow with one 14, or 16 with a rotary hoe attached to the side at a higher gear and speed, and finish just as quick OR quicker when considering not having to do double discing, AND with the possibility of saving gas.
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They had the oliver decked out later with what looked like a cultivator frame with no schovels, but with a spinning set of rotary hoe tines with their axles set in front of the rig facing forward, and the wheels themselves facing sideways of travel. The hoes were motorized somehow, likely either by the belt or PTO
 
My dad pulled a section of rotary hoe behind our 4 bottom Case plow for a long time, it did a reasonable job of smoothing the ground for the next pass, when the heavy plow rakes came out we switched to them. Mike
 
There were many variations on the theme, gtractorfan talks about a common style. Here is a picture of the one we use on the Case plow. It attaches to the plow beam with an arm that goes to the angled bracket at the top of the picture. The rake smooths the ground and breaks clods to make the next tillage pass easier. Mike
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Our neighbor back in 1962 started practicing what was then, state of the art minimum tillage. He had a new 4010 and pulled 4 btm with two "clod busters" behind it. They were like a heavy offset rotary hoe of sorts. Then came right in and planted /sprayed for weeds. Didn't come back 'til harvest time. Just had to hope you didn't have a dry year.
 
Does a good job on heavy clay soils.
Other plow harrows use a similar set up in which the knives are mounted on a long shaft, mounted parallel to the plow beam, similar to the schollen cracker shown in the link.
Schollen cracker
 
we sold the Midwest harrow brand in the 60's and 70's, the one above is the model we so for moboard plows I still have a set on a A-6 plow we sold new they worked well here also, I still have the set we installed new on our "FC" 32' CASE cultivator as well, The one you talk of we sold a few as well they called them "Buster Bars" then
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Its kinda funny looking back at things we tried way back when. The problem with everything that was tried was the ground had to be right for most of these things to work right. 90% of the time the ground was never right, To wet to much trash well you name it, So most of these ideas were taken off the plow put in the barn or the fence row. The last time I plowed stocks under, The plow did a great job by its self. Let it lay for 2 day and hit it with a harrow gadder and packer twice and it was good to go. Bandit
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BUT, WILL ANYONE TELL ME IF MY CONJECTURE IS RIGHT OR WRONG, THAT THE COLLAGE PUTTINIG ON THE DISPLAY WAS TRYING TO SHOW THAT A 2 PLOW TRACTOR WITH ONE PLOW AND A CLOD BUSTER COULD BE AS FAST OR FASTER THAN A 2 BOTTOM PLOW AND THEN DOUBLE DISCING?
 
I went on U Tubes, and typed in antique plowing vids. You might pinpoint it better by typing in 1940 plowing demo
 
two trips over a field is never as fast as going over it once, even a one bottom verses a two bottom you still are going over the ground twice, more compaction more fuel wear and tear on the tractor ect,
 
You bring up a good point Bandit, I never deal with Corn stocks on a regular basis, small grain stubble is much less a problem plowing,, in my area the harrow on the plow worked well even if it was a bit wet, always gave you more time before you needed to work the plowing down, But that is my area and crops,,
cnt
 
Case nutty, I agree with you, BUT what Im wondering is iof they expounded using one bottom at a higher rate of speed, WITH a section of rotary hoe beside the plow to eliminate discing. Just going from plowing to planting. IF you eliminated discing, that would save a buncha gas. IF you plowed in a higher gear, that should go some bit in saving gas on plowing, OR at least equaling it out with doing it with 2 bottoms. Surely they had it figured out or they wouldn't be demonstrating it with crowds looking on.
 
You hit the nail on the head there with your last statement! "But that is my area and crops"! What works in one area may not work at all in another so it a crap shoot knowing what to do. That's the best thing about farming, Its never the same way twice and there is always something new to figure out. Bandit
 
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