new holland br 450 balers

Nick m

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Anyone have any experience with these? They seem reasonablely priced. Also advertise you only need 40hp to run. I'd guess since you can get away with less hp, your ground speed really slows? I only bale around 30 acres of hay and maybe some straw each year, so I don't need a high end baler, but something newer and reliable would be nice. Would be great if the old massey 175 could run it also. Pros/cons?
 
I've haven't used any round baler, but intend to in a few years. Due to my PTO hp limits 47/50 max, will likely make a 4x4 bale, but have spent a goodly amount of time looking at everything from 3x4, 4x4 and 4x5 round balers.

From what I read, the 450U sounds like a pretty good baler. I think they may have had a few kinks when first out, but OK now. Other balers I've looked at are the MF/Hesston 745 (40 hp req'd) and am particularily intrigued with the Vermeer Rebel balers. Not sure about the MF or NH, but I believe he Vermeer does not require you to stop the PTO when ejecting the bale and the baler is IMHO heavily constructed.

Good luck,
Bill
 

Something you'd better figure out fast is that just because a manufacturer says a 40 hp tractor can run a baler doesn't mean a 40hpo tractor can run it anywhere near as good as a 55 or 65hp tractor. According to tests it only takes 27 ho to make a 5x5 bale in my old Hesston. I have used a 30hp Cockshutt to make bales with that baler and it's a real struggle. I've used 45hp and it's still a struggle- and I was making 4x5's with the 30 and 45 hp rigs, not 5x5. 55hp is pretty fair but when the bale gets to about 4 1/2 foot it's bogging pretty good. I think somewhere around 65-75hp would run it at speed up to a full bale.

My point is you need to take the advertisements with a grain of salt. Yeah, in perfect hay on a flat land field with the moisture just right you can probably get by with the minimum, but what are you going to do the other 99% of the time?

Bill, there are several makes of balers that don't require you to stop the pto. I don't "need" to stop on my old Hesston, but it sure makes a nicer looking bale when I do. Talk to some people that have run whatever baler you are looking at before you buy. Vermeer has a "love it/hate it" reputation.
 
Agree with what your saying. The manufactures probably
inflate or in this case deflate their hp numbers.

About 10 miles down the road from me a guy bales with a MF
243 (47 PTO hp) and I believe he is using a 4x6 baler. That
MF really sounds like it's giving every ounce of power it's got -
LOL!

My 5055d is 47 PTO per JD and 50 PTO per the Nebraska
test. I'm not interested in overwhelming it with a round baler.
Probably a MF/Hesston 3x4 round bale would be ideal, but I
think a 4x4 would make for a better sale. I would consider a
4x5 baler if I could make a 4x4 bale with it and a 4x5 from time
to time if desired - knowing it would be a hard pull. Another
consideration for a 4x5 would be (if I could make a 4x4 bale)
having the capability should I ever get a higher hp tractor -
which I don't see happening anytime soon. So I think my JD
would handle a 4x4 round baler ok form a power standpoint
and not get pushed around to much by it either.

Thanks,
Bill
 
Know and fully understand what you're saying. I just figure
my 65hp massey would handle one of these. I rent a claas
66 from time to time now and I know for a fact it won't run
that. A 90hp tractor knows it's back there when it's getting
full.

Not really sure how they get there ratings. In my jd 1600 14ft
haybine manual, it says a 75hp tractor can handle it. Don't
think so. My 115hp tractor knows it's back there in heavy first
cutting hay. Doesn't bring it to it's knees by any means, but
makes it work enough that I wouldn't want much less on it.
 

I got my hp ratings from a web search, some Provincial agency out of Canada IIRC. They did a lot of tests, sort of like the Nebraska Tractor Tests. I lost the addy when the hard drive died in my computer.

Sorry for my typos. Between arthritis and my rickety old key board a lot of intended "P's" become "O's"! :oops:
 
I looked into one earlier this year and really couldn't find much bad about them. Most dealers seem to like and have been selling quite a few of them.

Here's a link to short video of one being pulled by a Tc40..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9uK1u1ZMo
 

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