New Idea 484 Round Baler: Pros and Cons, please.

We just bought one and were wondering what kind of problems, tricks, traps etc. It"s an earlier model with electric tie. Manuals have been ordered. What kind of experiences have any of you had with one?
 
I had one as my first entry in the world of round bales. It wasn't a bad baler. It is a bit slow tying, but unless you're doing a lot of hay, it isn't bad. The other thing, is they don't like tough hay. It has to be dry or you'll have trouble ejecting the bale. I had to go into hi-R and slam on the brakes at times to get the bale out. But being a soft core baler, the bales will last a long time out in the weather because of all the material being farther out on the bale. Oh, yeah. And I will recommend at least 80 hp on it. As the bale gets full, they will make a tractor talk before you get a door open alarm and time to tie it.
 
I had a 456...(open throat)...worked fine on alfalfa hay, but was a disaster on corn stalks. Wouldn"t start a bale unless I pushed stalks in with a long 2x4- and yes, more than dangerous. Once started, it picked up and baled fine. Made 7 bales in a day of trying.

So I rented a new baler from the dealer- pretty sure it was a 484- whatever was new in the 90s. Really not much better on stalks. They were dry but I had too much trouble starting a bale. Took it back, certainly didn"t consider buying it. Sold the 456 a few years ago- new owner still uses it for alf/grass hay.
 
They make a soft core bale and a loose one at that. At least the few that where around here did. They take more horsepower than they look like they would. When the bale is about done they pull had for the size bale they make.

If your not baling much and it is primarily grass hay they do OK but not great.
 
I don't know where these guys are coming up with all this need for horse power to run one. I have run ours with a 574 which is only about 50 horse. I do normally run it with an 806 due to convenience. As the loader is on the 574 so we can load as we bale.
You will want to start your bale in the middle of the baler and end there. If you try to start your bale on either side it tends to not feed in well needing a 2x4 to push the wad in. If you stop in the middle it will start the twine better trying to start twine from the side will get it tangled around the cutoff bar and then you have to get off and cut it yourself. Tieing from the side will also not tie the one side when the twine tangles on the cutoff bar. I bale windrows single for first cutting and double or triple for subsequent cuttings. The do tend to go through roll bearings about one or 2 a year. They are available through both your CNH dealer or Agco or if you have a NI dealer which are scarce now. they run in the 20-30 dollar range. You can call me if you like. 989 413 5684 We have had this one for over 10years now. Have thought maybe it should find a new home some time.
 

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