billion seeder

johnwayne360 · Oct 12, 2014

Looking at a billion ss10 seeder. 10 ft 3pt mount. 2200 lbs empty. Will a 7710 ford mfwd lift it, or would I need front weights?

casecollectorsc · Oct 12, 2014

Brillion???

johnwayne360 · Oct 12, 2014

Yes.on my phone didnt see the mistake

RodinNS · Oct 12, 2014

It should lift it but you'll probably need some suitcase weights...

Rod

charlie n · Oct 12, 2014

You won't have a problem.I got a lot less tratcor that I put an 8' on .I also put it on a 4230 JD without any extra wieght.Good luck.

RodinNS · Oct 13, 2014

Then again... an 8' Brillion is a lot less than a 10' Brillion isn't it...
I've spent a couple of hours in the seat of a 7710. If that 2200# is hung close it will handle it. If it's way out behind the tractor it will require a full front rack of 1000# to keep the front end planted and will challenge the system's lift capacity without a boost cylinder. I suspect the Brillion will fall closer to the middle of the range and require some front weight to keep control on hills... at least to maintain control in most people's comfort zone..

Rod

Fordfarmer · Oct 13, 2014

I agree. The Brillion 3-point seeders mount close, but that's a lot of weight.

charlie n · Oct 13, 2014

What do you use the tractor for now John?

charlie n · Oct 13, 2014

And to answer your question Rod my 8 is an older machine that does weigh 2300 empty.The newer Brillions are lighter do to lack of some frame castings that aren't used anymore.

RodinNS · Oct 13, 2014

Regardless, he's still talking about hanging 22-2400# on the back of that tractor.
I'll be blunt about this... I've spent over 6000 hours in the seat of the exact tractor he's talking about. I run a 4 bottom mounted plow on it that weighs 2150#. To carry that plow safely up a grade this 7710 is carrying 575# of suitcase weight plus loaded fronts that add somewhere in the range of 600-700# more. Without the loaded fronts and just the suitcase weight I could pick the front end of the tractor up with ONE hand, without effort. Now granted the plow hangs MUCH further behind than I suspect the Brillion would... the weight is about the same... so I suspect to stay in the comfort zone with the Brillion... he'd probably want a bit of weight.

Rod

charlie n · Oct 13, 2014

OK Rod you ever had a Brillion on it??

RodinNS · Oct 13, 2014

Not mounted.. They're all PT around here. Work with mounted sprayers that are a similar weight tho... Flat ground is fine. Hills require caution without weight.

Rod

johnwayne360 · Oct 13, 2014

cutting hay, hauling bales, pulling wagons. Just kind
of an all around deal. Someday I should try to figure
out how much weight is on the tractor when I pull the
bale mover. Six bales, 1000 lbs each..four in front of
the axle, and two behind, with a gooseneck hitch.
Front end is the tiniest bit light, but not bad enough
to cause problems.

Ken Macfarlane · Oct 15, 2014

I run an old 8 ft 3 point brillion that I think is 1800 lbs, my 50 hp kubota lifts it fine. That same kubota barely keeps its front wheels down for a KV AB85 3 bottom plow with spring trips and coulters. The brillion is close to the tractor.

My bigger massey doesn't even notice the brillion.

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