TX Jim

TX. Jim

I added this to your comment on the 385 JD Baler question and don't know if you saw it. If not here is a copy. Your response would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark
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Couple of questions here. On your 467, was this non CV shaft you used in good working order.....could it have been the condition of the shaft making it vibrate?
Did it vibrate with the baler directly behind the tractor? If it didn't I suppose it was only in the turns and the tighter the turn the worse it got which would be normal. Did you use a drawbar extender with this experiment?
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Back to the comment about a carrier bearing. You didn't say which "machine" you were referring to in your comment, my 1209 or 530? I do remember my 1209 had a carrier bearing on a pivoting bracket near the tractor end of the shaft and I can see where that would be a requirement for something with a shaft of that length.

However, on my 530 the shaft was much shorter and I don't recall one. I remember hooking it to the tractor PTO was much much less effort than hooking up this one I currently own with the CV joint. That sucker is heavy and with the tractor shaft locked in place it's a workout for a one man operation to try to line up that thing, take a cheater and rotate the baler till the splines line up, pull the collar back, line it all up and slide it on.

Could you post a IPB for the 530, especially the drive line part please sir.

Thanks,
Mark

Mark
Look at the thread for a 385 baler for my answers. If you need a new cv joint I'd recommend getting a complete newer style shaft that has the solid spines and female tubes reversed so tractor half weighs a little less making shaft a little easier to attach to tractor pto.

Well I guess you were busy so I just went to the JD parts site online and pulled up the drive line and gearbox for the 530 and the 375. The gearbox may not be exactly the same size, but the parts are the same......no carrier bearing in the front of the box. As I assumed the carrier bearing you mentioned was on the tongue of the 1209 MOCO.

Also with the 530 the draw bar extension is listed in the parts breakdown whereas none is listed with the 375, but it has the CV drive line (to compensate obviously for no extension) whereas the drive line for the 530 (PTO input) is a conventional U joint at each end of a drive shaft.

So, with that said, Seems to me that if you have the drawbar extender, which thousands should be around in old equipment sales yards, you can get a conventional drive line of adequate HP and solve the $500-$1,000 fiasco.

So, when mine breaks, or when I get tired of fighting it, I will do just that: install my extender and get a conventional drive shaft. As a matter of fact, I may just make that change over the winter.

Mark

(quoted from post at 17:54:26 10/07/14)

So, with that said, Seems to me that if you have the drawbar extender, which thousands should be around in old equipment sales yards, you can get a conventional drive line of adequate HP and solve the $500-$1,000 fiasco.

So, when mine breaks, or when I get tired of fighting it, I will do just that: install my extender and get a conventional drive shaft. As a matter of fact, I may just make that change over the winter.

Mark

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MARK
What you stated will not work correctly because with the long driveshaft that your baler has you can't get both u-joint angles the same degrees in a sharp turn therefore the driveshaft without a CV joint will accelerate/slow down even with an equal angle hitch.

The carrier brg on a 530 baler is outlined in red.

OOOOOOOOOOH. Now I remember. Guess I wasn't looking at the right parts in the JD IPD but I am not familiar with them and I DID want an answer that supported no CV.....Grin...little human nature getting in the way.

I like your idea about putting the CV on the baler end. That makes a lot of sense and since the driveline is a "series circuit" (electrical term but still applies) it shouldn't matter which end has the U joint and which the CV. All I need to figure out is getting the shear bolt coupler on the CV and the spline on the other end.

Thanks for the reply. You just saved me about $300 and a lot of frustration.

Mark

Mark
On later model rd balers the CV joint stays on tractor half but the male & female parts are interchanged as the female shaft weighs less than the solid spline.

Well sir, after all the dust has settled, I think I will leave well enough alone for now as I have no current problem and it works.

I found out that if I open the gate and take the tension off the belts it helps in rotating the baler PTO shaft and aligning the splines on the shafts. My Branson locks the PTO shaft and doesn't turn with the engine off like my Fords which helps a lot on them....but they are not big enough to pull the baler.

Using a saw horse to hold up the shaft while trying to attach helps too.

Being retired and not having all that much baling, I think I will just suck it up and make do.

Thanks for your support and time.

Mark