V type snow blower

Glenn D

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hi Folks

I just picked up this V type snow blower. the picture is the identical model but not mine ...Mine is converted to mount backwards. and badly done to boot. I think this unit would work much better as a pull type behind one of my N's so I wanted to convert it back. I wanted to know of people thought the distance from the 3pt to the machine would be critical because after I cut the mount off and clean it up I won't have the OEM dimension for that distance to mount if back on. do you think a little longer or shorter is going to make a difference?




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Well, I don't have any technical help for you, but I do have an oppinion!

I personally have a Champion Berger Rotary Snow Plow, that my neighbore bought new to use on a Ferguson TO-30. I thought that it would be really cool to blow, instead of push.

I hooked it up, and I instantly realized that you cannot back right up to a building/car/obstacle and continue blowing snow, the tractor has to be there FIRST...

The second down side that I found with mine, is that should you get a rock in it, which is easy to do early in the season on a 3/4 - road, it flings the rock back out of the paddles, and then it bounces off of the V and then comes in YOUR DIRECTION!!

I was hit several times by rocks, and then finally gave up and went back to my 6 foot blade... Just some things to think about... Bryce
 
In the type of heavy wet snow we get here that would be just a packer to put the snow in a hard pile that you would have to dig out of it by hand as you could not lift it high enough to go over the pile and that is even in just a 3" snowfall in 10' of travel. The only place for them is in the scrap yard. Unless you have an auger, more like a double auger forget it and if it gets very deep even forget the front blade and get the loader out.
 
If someone turned the blower around to backup with, rather than pull, how did he reverse the impeller? Before you cut it all apart you better check the rotation.
Trufully those things arn't worth a hoot, because the snow just wedges in the V and can't get to the impeller.
Loren, the Acg.
 
Thanks folks

Ok well getting hit with rocks is bad... heh! That Champion unit looks like the same sort of design.

I have a single auger, bigger rear facing blower now that works really well with deep snow. it's a Mckee and I saw today actually that the single auger JD is an almost part per part copy of it. go figure.. which is good it's good cause I need an idler sprocket for it :)

This one, I think I can use in light snow before we are plowed in and it'll be used on 2 long driveways that hopefully will be joined to make a circular drive here shortly. Last winter we blew snow every day except 2 or 3 from about mid december on. We completely used up a 3 year old self propelled snow blower (cheap little 10hp one) and at one point we had 12' deep drifts. last winter was no joke here. so this I hope to use more frequently on the N's which start and run with no trouble on the coldest days where the diesel is a little more involved, and because it's just drive forward in a circle kind of thing, I hope it will make short work of the light stuff.

The accumulation here is too much to plow. you could only get away with that for a short time then there would be no place for the snow to go. Blown snow takes up a lot less room than plowed snow it seems.

The impeller is on a shaft that runs all the way through the unit so I can just turn the shaft around so the PTO input is on the other side. The impeller and stay the same. just the drive runs the other way though it. They simply chopped it off in the front and added it to the rear to turn it around. and welded it up badly.

It was free so i'll give it a chance and if it doesn't work thats fine, i'm not relying on it 100%
 
Glenn; McKee made JDs snow blowers so they would be the same. Just a little difference in some of the PTO shields and small stuff.

As for your "V" type snow blower. I do not think you could turn one from pull to push with out changing the blower and housing. The direction of rotation would be backwards when you turned it around.

There where several brands of rear facing "V" type snow throwers. None of them work very well unless the snow is powder dry and not deep.

Here is a picture of an Arps thrower.
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Just my two cents but ANY blower in My are (NW MN) where You have to drive the tractor over the snow and drifts in order to blow the snow away is just harder on the tractor and the Operator. As for Myself I feel that I am better off getting a crink in My neck looking back to see where I am going because My tractor is Putting all of its power to the ground and PTO rather than climbing drifts into the unknown. BUT it all depends on what kind of moisture You are dealing with in the snow.
 
(quoted from post at 00:25:25 10/06/14) Glenn; McKee made JDs snow blowers so they would be the same. Just a little difference in some of the PTO shields and small stuff.

As for your "V" type snow blower. I do not think you could turn one from pull to push with out changing the blower and housing. The direction of rotation would be backwards when you turned it around.

There where several brands of rear facing "V" type snow throwers. None of them work very well unless the snow is powder dry and not deep.

Here is a picture of an Arps thrower.
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ahh the JD connection makes perfect sense then. But they want way to much for the idler anyway. I ordered one from a bearing place for 1/8th the price... amazing.

The impeller on the V type is really 4 pieces of chanel welded at right angles around a square to make 4 paddles. if I turn it 180° along with the drive shaft it will still turn the right direction to throw the snow. I wonder if the problems with them could be overcome, Hope I have time to work with it. It's such a simple machine with very few parts, maybe too few.

Using these tractors, (the N's in particular) I realize they are really made to pull stuff and really kind of suck ay pushing stuff, Almost all the implements are designed to be pulled. so the pull type makes sense to me from that point of view. But I can also see how not having a first stage provide a moving face to scrape the snow into powder before it get to the impeller is a real disadvantage to this unit.
 
I can't give you help on your demension, But I
do have an Arps convertable { push or pull } V
type snow blower and use it on my Ford 860 .
I works well as a pull type with the extra low
1st forward gear, live PTO and live hydraulics.
When used on a 640 Four speed and non live
pto you have to remember to raise the blower
out of the snow before hitting the clutch or you
have a clog. My machine has breaker bars on
the input shaft to the blower to break the snow
into smaller / easier pieces of snow and keep
it feeding into the blower.
I hope this helps you.
 
We have a ersklin (made in nw mn)pull blower on the 2n ford. the snow has to be right to work. but when its right it blows like a champ. Bob
 

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