Hey Guys, Just Got A NH 269 Baler.....

It's a replacement for my IH 47 baler. That baler had a healthy appetite & knotters that wouldn't fail unless I used cheap twine. Unfortunately, parts don't last forever & my ol' baler is done until I have time & money to put into it. In the mean time, I picked up a NH 269 baler. It would be great to say that I know much about these balers, but I don't. Seems that I've seen a few posts on here about the knotter chain jumping. Is this one of the more common problems? What's done to prevent that from happening? Any other issues I should be aware of? Any tips or tricks I should be aware of, not covered in the manual. The baler did come with the manual, btw. How about appetite? My 47 was rated at 17 ton an hour.... that's makin' some hay, in my book. What's the 269 rated at? Speaking of specs, where are all the original brochures & manuals for this machine? Ebay has a few original parts catalogs & that's it. Is this a limited or low production baler? What's parts availability like? I wouldn't mind replacing the PTO assembly from the tractor to the flywheel, primarily for safety & slightly for cosmetic reasons. Yes, I do know I will be engaging in an expensive battle there. Can't be worse than IH parts through Case. >:v( What should I know about the thrower? Can I put a cylinder on it? Just not a fan of mechanical guidance. And.... one more.... how stout is that wagon hitch on the back? I couldn't help but notice it's just a pipe vs a solid "pin" on the 47.

Thank you all for your time, sorry for the rapid fire questions!

Mike
 
About the chain.Put a new one on it and keep it snug,it will stay on.NH made thousands of them.Parts availability is good.Get your books from your NH dealer.Also try Jensales.That machine is from the early 1960s.The pipe hitch will pull about any standard 4 wheel farm wagon.Check out Messics.com they are a big NH dealer in Pensylvania.They have a wonderful parts site.
 
The pipe hitch was common on balers of that era. The weak spot to keep an eye on is where the hitch is welded to the bale chamber. That is where they usually tear out. If you are on fairly level ground it will probably never fail.
On a bad sidehill we would bend or break a pipe occansionally. Cheap fix. Just find another piece of pipe.

The pickup head is belt driven. Keep a good belt on the thing and you'll be okay. We bought a 269 new and baled over 500,000 bales with it over the years before we pretty much wore it out.
 
17 tons/hour from the IH baler? That equals 680 fifty pound bales per hour! 11.3 bales/minute. About 1 bale every 5 seconds. I don't think the 269 can match that.
 
Agree with Steve, if that chain jumps its WAY to loose!! all drive chains need to have the slack out of them to stay in perfect time
cnt
 
The 17t/hr comes from the brochure. I don't know how realistic that figure is. I was happy making three or four a minute. Might have been tempted to push a little more if there was a thrower on. Hopefully, the NH is close.

Mike
 
Yep, I'm working a piece with a side-hill. Guess I'll exercise caution.

The belt on the pickup is in good shape, but I'll get one on order for backup.

I must say, 500k bales is soooome longevity. I've often wondered what the higher, life-long totals would look like for some of the old small square balers.

Thanks,
Mike
 
I ask a lot of questions - let me change gears and try to answer a few...

Firstly, I've got a new to me (and my boys) a New Holland 68 and if you do a search on NH68, you'll find a lot of my questions, and a ton of answers. I try to throw-in NH68 in my posts so future searches will be easier vs NH 68 or 68, etc. seems a lot of forums need 4 or more letters to give you a chance at a search, so NH68 is what I do.

FWIW, One of the reasons I bought a New Holland baler is the terrific and plentiful on line help - like on this forum, something for which I am extremely greatful!

Were I you, I'd study the manual you have, if you google you tube, there is a great video by New Holland that explains their knotting cycle. I've been reading a ton of old posts here - I want to know how every aspect do these balers operate and how to fix something if it goes out of wack. The tonnage of old New Holland posts here will be one of your best friends.

New Holland has a decent parts list on their web site. You can download PDF's of the parts lists too.

New and used parts are plentiful - I'm looking forward to reading your NH269 posts and think you will enjoy that baler.

Good luck,
Bill
 
Good old balers.Built from 1964-1969.Made around 10,000 bales with one and never had the chain jump off.

You can still get about every part except for the sheet metal.

If you order parts make sure to give the serial number.Some stuff does have a S/N parts break.

Good luck.
 
We baled 20,000 + per year between the two farms. The smaller 14-15 ft. wagons were okay on the side hills. We had two wagons with 18 ft. by 8ft. inside dimensions and when you had them loaed to the gills they required caution on the side hills. They would push the baler around and could bend the pipe. Learned to HATE baling dry square bales. Still do. (smile)
 
It's a 2040 151 links,1 offset link, and a connecter link.It does have a part#66190.But a dealer will have it in bulk and cut what you need.Pay a little extra and get a good one.
 
You'll be damn lucky to see 1/3 of that through the 269...
I'd seriously question that 17.5 ton/hour as well. Most of those old balers would mabey do 7.5 ton an hour if everything went perfectly. Probably a typo in the literature. New balers today like the biggest NH square balers... yeah, probably do something close to 17 ton per hour with 100 hp in front of it. I've see video of a 575 working that was chunking out a bale in 6 strokes consistently... at I think 93 strokes per minute. Do the math... roughly 15 per minute or 900 per hour...

Rod
 
I think you'd be lucky to get half to a third of that through the 47 baler. I have a wire tie 47 that works pretty good but in heavy brome I can't make the windrows small enough to bale in 1st gear with an IH 350 tractor pulling it. I have a 9' rake and make the windrows 6'-7' apart and it still can't handle it. A 440 baler is huge step up in capacity.
 
I cover some steep ground, and I try to mow so that when I'm baling, I can start the load on the steep spots, then go somewhere a little flatter to finish the load. A wagon with 125 bales in it can push the baler pretty good.
Good luck with your new baler
Pete
 

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