Looking for a hay tedder

Looking to buy a used hay tedder. What brands and models to stay away from and what is a good durable hay tedder. Will pull it with a JD530w. Thanks for any help and advice you can give.
NE Pa.
Al
 
I have a Morra. Hate it. Also have dealt with a Deutz-Allis. Stay away from them too. One friend has had a Pequea for several years. Does a lot of acres and seems to be holding up well. Kuhn and New Holland tedders are also well regarded in the area.
 
The only advice I can give is get a trailer type, not a 3 pt. I have an old Kuhn tedder/rake and it's ridiculously heavy and frail for what it is, plus they expect you to lift it off the ground for any turn. Probably worked great on long straight fields, but stinks in small, irregular fields. Everyone I know has one of the Italian made brands and they all work fine. Some of the BTOs have Class, Kuhn, Krone and they like them but they are lots more money.

The Grimm/Pequea horizontal type work good too, but you don't see so many of them.
 
Those work great for alfalfa or other leafy crops because they are gentle. They work good in grass, too, but to do a good job in heavy grass hay you need to travel slower than you would with a rotary tedder.
 
The one I used worked great but like Tim said, in heavier hay you need to slow down a little, but that's sometimes true with the star type too IME. The reel type have a different action than the star type. You don't get as much lift with a star type but they spread it out more, which can be good a lot of the time.
 
I have both a Pequea and a two star tedder. Each has it's place. Usually here I will ted twice. First time with the Pequea and travel in the opposite direction of cutting.
Do this a couple hrs after cutting. If you get the speed and fluffer set right then it will stand the hay up. Next day early go in with my two star and spread out the hay. Once I spread the hay Then I have a problem. When I rake it is really hard to tell how much to put in the windrow. This is done with a 9 ft. haybine.
 

It seems that everyone used to have Kuhns but now you see many others. My Kuhn was old and well used when I bought it about twenty years ago, and still going strong.
 
Pequea 710 is OK 910 is better. and they are cheap to buy used ones and there is not much to go wrong with them . Basket types are pretty delicate and used ones that are sound are hard to find.
I think there is a lot of mis-use of tedders today. I see guys out with these 4 spinners types out whipping fresh mowed hay. They just wasting time and fuel. You need to use a tedder after the top has dried some. And the sooner you can bale after tedding the better colored your hay will be. If you keep on whipping that hay all around , you are just exposing more of the hay to bleaching sunlight rays.
 
Bleaching is aesthetic. Wet hay burns barns down. I'd rather hit it an extra time or 2 than lose my barn. To each their own.
 
Al, it kind of depends on how much hay you're gonna do. A lot of times, a little two star is enough, but if you have any amount a four star is a lot quicker. I have a TT4000 Pequea and love it. A Kuhn is also a great machine. Look around for a basket tedder that is in decent condition, Check the slop in the rotors though before you buy it. If you only have a few acres, the older bar types are getting cheap, and still work well enough. Another one to look at is an Esch. They're made locally. Stay away from the weird and lighter brands. Nothing is more aggravating in loosing a cutting because your tedder broke down....
 
I've used two brands, Kuhn and Deutz-Fahr. The Kuhn works great and is very well built.
The Deutz-Fahr does a nice job of tedding, but isn't very rugged and is impossible to pull down the road - parts are also very expensive.
I would go with a four spool - you can cover a lot of ground in a hurry.
Pete
 
I just picked up a 2 star for mostly small fields. I did 12 acres in 2 hours as a data point... So, around 6 acres per hour... Most of my fields are small 3-5 acre parcels so less than an hour per field is fine for my needs.
 

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