Allis Chalmers #3 sickle bar mower

Glenn D · Jul 29, 2013

Hi Folks

I just got one of these from a field and wondered if I could find enough info to get it running. looks like it's set up to pull from a draw bar. Is there any documentation around for these? Dims for the pitman arm are also required. The Owner also gave me a grinder head with a stone to fit the sickle bar blades.

Super-H-Mike · Jul 29, 2013

I have one in good working order, I could measure the pitman if needed for you, I should have that written down as well for myself if needed. I mounted mine on my H with the WC mount and it works great ! I also have the operators handbook and repair parts list if you think there is something in it you would need ...

Glenn D · Jul 29, 2013

That would be great, this unit was int he dirt for a while and the Pittman was eaten off, the ends are still there but the middle is gone. I don't know what isn't there but from the one set of pictures I saw there is a cover guard missing for the drive line and the hydraulic cylinder is missing (which I don't have an easy way to drive from my tractors anyway). I'm hoping I can use the unit without that.

But i'm having hard time seeing how this is supposed to mount. it looks like a U frame to mount to the lift arms but no top link attaching point and inside that U frame is another U frame that could make it bolt to drawbar, I suppose if it was bolted in 2 places to the draw bar it would lift and drag on it's single rear wheel bt without a top link whats stopping it from swinging up if it hit s something ?

Edit: I was told this was previously used on a 3pt tractor before

Glenn D · Jul 29, 2013

Actually I found some other pictures on the AC forum and mine never had the cylinder it had a lever to adjust and it should work fine just on the draw bar from what I can see of how it attaches. no need to lift it at all I guess

Super-H-Mike · Jul 29, 2013

What tractor are you gonna mount it too ?

Glenn D · Jul 29, 2013

I have a B275 , and ford 2N and 9N's that should work with this.. thanks for that picture it shows exactly how mine has to mount.

old · Jul 29, 2013

I have a 4 page sales paper that came with that mower when it was new. Throw me an e-mail and I can scan it for you and then send you the info. It tell you how to use it and all. Says they came in 3 sizes 5,6, and 7 foot

Super-H-Mike · Jul 29, 2013

Here it is attached to my SH

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

I see your has the cylinder and the frame with the handle. Mine doesn't have the cylinder now I'm wondering if its supposed to have it after all . What does the cylinder do?

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

(quoted from post at 15:15:05 07/29/13) I have a 4 page sales paper that came with that mower when it was new. Throw me an e-mail and I can scan it for you and then send you the info. It tell you how to use it and all. Says they came in 3 sizes 5,6, and 7 foot

Thanks Old. My mail is [email protected]

Super-H-Mike · Jul 30, 2013

The cylinder lifts the cutter bar, and so does the long lift arm, mine just happens to have both still installed. I only use the hydralic so far, but I figure it wont hurt to let the manual lift ride along...in fact if I have some form of hydralic failure I should still be able to lift it manually. Takes some grunt though !

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

Hah! well grunt I have... extra hydraulic ports I don't.

I'll need the length of the Pittman arm if you could find the time to measure it. i'll get to try and put this is operation this weekend, thanks

old · Jul 30, 2013

I keep my e-mail open on here all the time. If your in Classic you just need to click on send e-mail

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

Sorry there is some problem with my profile. it's opened as far as I know but it still doesn't show up. actually it looks like it's showing up now

Super-H-Mike · Jul 30, 2013

I put a tape on it and I get 26 inches overall length. Hopefully your ends are good enough to copy/transfer the holes.

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

(quoted from post at 12:06:08 07/30/13) I put a tape on it and I get 26 inches overall length. Hopefully your ends are good enough to copy/transfer the holes.

That's great. the ends are still in their brackets just the middle is gone. thanks there's a piece of oak waiting for me

hd6gtom · Jul 30, 2013

Glen I think our local family center still has some pitman sticks to fit that in stock, I don't know where you are located, these are in Winterset Iowa, I just put a new 1 on mine last week.

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

(quoted from post at 12:55:23 07/30/13) Glen I think our local family center still has some pitman sticks to fit that in stock, I don't know where you are located, these are in Winterset Iowa, I just put a new 1 on mine last week.

Thanks

I'm in Ontario, i'll have a look at the tractor supply place. I don't know how specific these are, I don;t see much Allis stuff around here so I think it was imported from some place that had a local dealer for them so i'm not holding much hope of stock somewere

Glenn D · Jul 30, 2013

Any idea what the tire size is supposed to be

Mines there but no size on it

Super-H-Mike · Jul 30, 2013

The tire on mine is 4.80-8

Farmallb · Jul 30, 2013

You want to be able to lift it as, when you come to a corner and make a square turn, that will cause the bar to go back wards sometimes. IF it drops into a small ditch or something and cant go backwards, bad things can happen.

Glenn D · Jul 31, 2013

I can see where that could be a problem but the land here is very flat , the worse thing I could encounter is some ant hills and they are very soft.

mdefelice91171 · Jul 15, 2014

Wondered if you still have it and if you may want to sell it?

(quoted from post at 17:10:14 07/29/13) Hi Folks

I just got one of these from a field and wondered if I could find enough info to get it running. looks like it's set up to pull from a draw bar. Is there any documentation around for these? Dims for the pitman arm are also required. The Owner also gave me a grinder head with a stone to fit the sickle bar blades.

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