Problems With 277 NH baler

Dick L

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I totally do not understand. I know I am doing every thing wrong and I still get good bales.
I took a short video this evening of pulling the 277 NH with a Farmall C in first gear. Skinny little windrow, taking it in close as possible it the inside. I still got nice square bales and never missed a tie. I keep reading to get nice square bales you need big wide windrows and move faster.
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Person has to do what you have to do, Those are some nice looking bales. You wouldn't be baling with a C if you had the big windrows. Back when I was a kid, neighbor guy baled a few bales on Dad's. He was baling with a M and a New Holland baler. Dad had raked the hay, just like he would have had he been stacking it with the Farmhand. BIG WIDE windrows. I remember Tom clamping a pair of Vice Grips to the governor, to try to keep it from lunging forward so bad.
 
Some guys would give a whole lot to have the hay rolling in one end and coming out in nice bales on the other right now. Whatever you are doing wrong, keep at it!
 

Most guys will say that their baler likes a huge windrow just out of brand loyalty. When I started out I was pulling a little Ford 250 with a 19 HP Kubota. My MF 224 bill break only 1/4 as many shear bolts a the JD 336 that I used to have. I still think that I Would double or triple the windrows though.
 
All depends on how the baler is set... how worn the feed tines are, etc. More often than not you need to keep a baler full to get consistent bales, but whatever works in your case.
You'd probably find that if you had a variable row where it was thick and thin and you drive at the same speed... you would have problems.

Rod
 
Bigger windrows and higher ground speed is usually advice for people who are having problems. Quite often the problem is a mismatch between baler setup and field conditions, as Rod says. If you're not having the problems, don't follow the advice for people who are! ;-)
 
I started doing custom baling in 1954 and did so for a number of years. I have seen about any field conditions you will come across. Any time I started having bale problems it was in the baler not the windrow or ground speed. You might be able to cover up a baler problems with windrow size or ground speed. I never tried that method. That does not repair the problems you are getting around. When I was custom baling you baled to the condition of the hay as it was in the field. You don't have the option of changing windrow size. I had big windrows, little windrows, bunched gobs of hay here and there where you had to get off and hand feed. The person that I was baling for wanted good bales. You gave them good bales or you didn't get the call next time they needed hay baled. It just tickles me when people are having baler problems and the advise is to rake bigger windrows and drive faster.
 
Dick, the balers can be set up differently, feeder systems have adjustments and in some of the NH's even the size of the pickup/feeder chamber can be changed. Often the problem is banana bales and that's the result of uneven feeding due to the baler being setup for larger windrows which will fill the chamber differently. You are 100% correct that there are other problems will never be fixed on the hay/windrow end, only the baler end...
 

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