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Re: Hay on the ground JD 24T missing bales like crazy!

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06-27-2014 21:11:02

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1. Have you set the needles fore and aft, left and right according to the book? (When correct they darned near whack the knotter frame as they pass through.)

2. Have you checked the tension it takes to pull the twine out of the twine disks vs. the manual, which would include checking that the twine holders/retainers and the leaf springs that tension them are intact and properly adjusted?

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06-28-2014 15:49:22

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 Re: Hay on the ground JD 24T missing bales like crazy! in reply to Bob, 06-27-2014 21:11:02  
Ok lots of stuff today.
Checked twine, twine is good quality, put in new balls. Checked tension on twine holders, both 75-100lbs roughly. Both needles exert a slight pressure (touch) the knotter frame as they pass through. Tensioners on twine case seems ok. need some pull, but no slop either. Missing knots on both sides at this point. 3-5 bales good, 5-8 bales only 1 side, and it swiches now. Most often there is a knot on top but not connected. sometimes 2 strings but no not. OM had me thinking twine disk tension but no dice. ??

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06-28-2014 17:55:00

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 Re: Hay on the ground JD 24T missing bales like crazy! in reply to somesortafarmer, 06-28-2014 15:49:22  
so much can go wrong - and I'm far from an expert with the 24t but I'll try to describe the annoying problem I just had with one since I don't think I saw it explained here - it'll at least give you something else to check.

The "tucker fingers" - if I'm calling them the right thing - two of them, one for each knotter - big cam-shaped flat metal disks that lie flat under the knotters...

Those are controlled by rods that are attached to a bracket that swings forward every time the knotters cycle.

On this 24t - the sheet metal of the bale chamber itself occassionally gets forced upwards by the pressure of the hay in the chamber. So much so that it eventually interferes with the metal arms that swing and push the rods for the tucker fingers.

It usually results in half-knots that just fall apart.

It's fixed by slamming the whole area down repeatedly with a heavy hammer and a large flat punch - to push the sheet metal out of the way so they don't bind.

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06-28-2014 18:23:52

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 Re: Hay on the ground JD 24T missing bales like crazy! in reply to JRSutton, 06-28-2014 17:55:00  
I had the same problem with a NH 68. Turned out the cause was a build up of chaff and junk under the tucker fingers. Cleaned it and worked fine.

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