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Re: Early automatic baler history

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KEH

06-27-2014 17:49:23
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NH made the 76 which had canvas curtins to take the hay up instead of spring fingers on chains, which the later 77 used. There were 77s and Super 77s. I had a Super. It had the plunger riding on rollers instead of wooden slides and also made large, well shaped bales from any sized windrow. The 77s dated from the early 1950s. Don't know about the 76s.

The NH 66 and Super 66 were sold about the same time as the 77s. I'm reasonably sure they were the first side fed NH balers. These balers use an auger cross feed.

I think the IHC 45 baler dates from about the same time. It also used an auger cross feed, but the one a neighbor had(powered by a Cub engine) did not tie well. The NH balers tied well from the beginning.

Case had a pickup baler with the spring pickup teeth in the early 1950s which fed the hay into the chamber from the side, maybe with an auger. Early ones did not have automatic tieing, but had a seat on each side of the bale case where two men wire tied each bale like on the older hand fed balers. Very soon Case put on knotters on that basic baler. Must have been a dusty job wire tieing. My guess is that the hand operated baler dated from the 1940s.

John Deere in the early 1950s had a baler that fed directly into the bale chamber and had the bale cas extending to one side. They had both twine and wire tie. Don't know the model numbers.

I think the work on the NH 76 balers started before World War II, but I may be wrong.

KEH

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Leroy

06-28-2014 06:17:10
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to KEH, 06-27-2014 17:49:23  
The John Deere sindwinder balers were only wire tie with the first version 116W in 46 and the second version started about 1950 along with the smaller 114W and the 116W lasted to 56, not sure if the 114W lased that long. The 14T came out as a 55 model and knocked the sales of the wire tie to nothing and the next year Deere had quit the sidewinder wire baler and brought out a wire tie version of the 14 as 14W. The 14W was not actually sold around here because nobody wanted a wire baler. The New Holland 66 came out about 53 and when it came out sales of every other model baler about dissapeared around here, A few 14T were sold but by then here you could not give a wire tie baler away any more. Have both versions of the 116W as collectors.

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Tx Jim

06-28-2014 06:34:27
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to Leroy, 06-28-2014 06:17:10  
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Leroy

I beg to differ as there was never a JD 14W sq baler. Yes there was a 214W & 214 WS. Here's the parts catalog # for 14T 426 - 14T Automatic Baler



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Leroy

06-28-2014 06:57:49
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to Tx Jim, 06-28-2014 06:34:27  
OK, topo new for me. I thought they had a 14W before the 214 series but guess not. What year did the 214 start? Was it a bigger capacity than the 14?



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Tx Jim

06-28-2014 09:09:06
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to Leroy, 06-28-2014 06:57:49  
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214 series started in 1957



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Roger in Iowa

06-28-2014 07:24:31
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to Leroy, 06-28-2014 06:57:49  
214W and T started in 1957. Ended about 1963. The W version had the 116W type twisters and later the "modern" twister style.



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Mike(NEOhio)

06-27-2014 19:26:41
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to KEH, 06-27-2014 17:49:23  
My father in law had an IH baler I think was a 52T that he bought in 49. Auger feed, twine tie.



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Evan350

06-27-2014 19:46:57
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 06-27-2014 19:26:41  

Would that be the model 50-T?



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Mike(NEOhio)

06-28-2014 16:04:34
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to Evan350, 06-27-2014 19:46:57  
That's it. He took the nose wheel off and converted it to drawbar-pull. Too hard to back up and it would slide out when turning on slopes.



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Roger in Iowa

06-27-2014 18:10:12
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 Re: Early automatic baler history in reply to KEH, 06-27-2014 17:49:23  
The 116W and 114W were double wire twist only. Very unique twisting/cutting mechanism.

14T was first twine tie baler.



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