conditioner speed

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I have a john deere 525 moco that I have complained about on this site before taking a huge amount of power to run. I have noticed that I am getting a lot of balled up crop spitting out the front all chewed up. The impeller can run at a slower and faster speed, currently set at faster speed. Would a slower conditioner speed help this or exacerbate it?
 
In my somewhat limited experience, not enough forward speed caused wrap and balling and the need for more power. In my case the assumption the I was going easier on the haybine by slowing to a lower gear in heavy or tall grass was wrong. running at prescribed pto speed and at a higher enough forward speed allowed the machine to do what it was designed to, cut the crop and process through the conditioning rolls with enough speed to get it away out the back. Manuals tell it all. Hope it helps, nothing worse than start/stop/start
in hay, makes you crazy(er)
 
I do have a manual which doesn't mention this issue in the troubleshooting. I have noticed that the faster I go the better it works and less demand on HP. I run in 5th gear on JD 4020 and don't really want to go any faster (yikes). I am going to try changing the impeller speed and see what happens. I will report back.
 
You are not driving fast enough for the crop to clear the cutter bar correctly. The impeller is trying to "pull the crop back into to self or even wrapping up with hay. This mainly happens with tall grass type of hay.

A good example would be spring RYE around here. I have seen the impeller completely wrapped up like a round bale when mowing it too slow.

There are two ways to "fix" this.

1) Drive faster.

2) Slow the impeller down but you will then have to reset the door to make it condition correctly at the lower speed.
 
Normally, the slower impeller speed is for gentle handling of alfalfa. This being said, even when mowing alfalfa at the faster speed I never found it necessary to change to the slower impeller speed. Like the others said, drive faster and leave the impeller where it is. And run the tractor wide open. Mike
 

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