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I purchased one of these used a few years ago. It is an older one with a cable and pulley to lift the blade. I'm using this on Ford tractors (601 Work Master and 3600). These smaller tractors don't seem to fit the mower well. I can get it mounted but the mower frame rides low enough to "rake" the cut hay. Constant adjustment of the lift is difficult. Am I doing something wrong?
 
Is it a 3pt hitch or trailing mower more info needed
bar not raising high enough or the mower body itself
 
It is a 3 point hitch mower. The blade raise good, but the body of the mower rides low to the ground and drags the hay along with it.
 
You may need to check your draft control lever and
make sure your 3 pt is going all the way up I
haven't messed with to many fords a lot of tractors
have a stop that can be adjusted any tractor should
lift the mower there not that heavy hope this helps
good luck
 
Yes, the 130/1300 were 3 pt mowers although I have seen same with #100 on them. Probably the only balanced head mower that I have not actually used so going to have to run with experience I have with other 3 pt mowers and use the sales literature. The rope and pulley concept is a little strange to me also. The balanced head mowers are kind of past the era of that type of technology and every one I have ever seen has had a remote cylinder or at least a place to put one. Not saying it did not exist, but is it possible this was rigged up at some point and is not original? Last, I think your 601 Ford would be plenty tractor for it. If I were to use this mower I would probably put it on my 300U fast hitch with adapters. Thinking that is a comparable tractor...maybe just a bit larger.

Anyhow, to get to the point. When is it dragging in the hay? When you are mowing and you pass over the previous row? Is it a problem with the tractor being able to lift it with the lower two arms or is the top link so long that it allows the mower to sag? The tractor should be able to hold that mower up in the air enough to clear cut hay. The cutter head must be able to drop down low enough to allow the inner shoe to glide along over the ground. There is going to be a sweet spot where the mower is high enough and the head is low enough. Set your 3 pt to stop at that level.

Sometimes you just can't adapt a mower to a different tractor. For example, a mower for an N Ford does not fit on a Ford compact utility from the 1990's, the lift arms are too short. I doubt this is the case with yours. IH was likely hoping to sell these to Ford owners.

I would start with the cutter bar raised and make sure I could get the 3 pt all the way up. If no I would look at the tractor to see why not. If yes I would lower the bar and check the adjustment on the bar. Set me stop on the 3 pt and cut some hay. If I have missed your point entirely, post back with more details. HTH
 
(quoted from post at 08:01:49 05/27/14) Yes, the 130/1300 were 3 pt mowers although I have seen same with #100 on them. Probably the only balanced head mower that I have not actually used so going to have to run with experience I have with other 3 pt mowers and use the sales literature. The rope and pulley concept is a little strange to me also. The balanced head mowers are kind of past the era of that type of technology and every one I have ever seen has had a remote cylinder or at least a place to put one. Not saying it did not exist, but is it possible this was rigged up at some point and is not original? Last, I think your 601 Ford would be plenty tractor for it. If I were to use this mower I would probably put it on my 300U fast hitch with adapters. Thinking that is a comparable tractor...maybe just a bit larger.

Anyhow, to get to the point. When is it dragging in the hay? When you are mowing and you pass over the previous row? Is it a problem with the tractor being able to lift it with the lower two arms or is the top link so long that it allows the mower to sag? The tractor should be able to hold that mower up in the air enough to clear cut hay. The cutter head must be able to drop down low enough to allow the inner shoe to glide along over the ground. There is going to be a sweet spot where the mower is high enough and the head is low enough. Set your 3 pt to stop at that level.

Sometimes you just can't adapt a mower to a different tractor. For example, a mower for an N Ford does not fit on a Ford compact utility from the 1990's, the lift arms are too short. I doubt this is the case with yours. IH was likely hoping to sell these to Ford owners.

I would start with the cutter bar raised and make sure I could get the 3 pt all the way up. If no I would look at the tractor to see why not. If yes I would lower the bar and check the adjustment on the bar. Set me stop on the 3 pt and cut some hay. If I have missed your point entirely, post back with more details. HTH
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It drags the cut hay when passing over the previous row that was mowed. I cam raise the 3PH to solve this, but kind of hard to do on the fly.
 
Unless I am misunderstanding you then you have not determined the correct height of the mower and set your stop on your 3 pt lift control so that it always goes to the same place and no lower. If you don't have such a thing then the check chain is a pretty good idea. Can't have the mower dragging in cut hay...it will catch on a belt or pto shaft. We have a name for that sort of thing...it is called a round baler! It will build up fast and you will need a sawzall to get loose.
 
(quoted from post at 19:05:33 05/27/14) Use a short check chain to hold the mower at the level you want. Don't ask how I know. BTDT
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Thanks to all for the suggestions. I was also thinking of a check chain. Just curious, what attach points did you use on each end of the chain?
 
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