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Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames?

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AlanA

04-12-2014 06:59:44
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A neighbor offered me a full set of cultivator frames with bedders installed on them. They came off a Farmall M, and I intend to put them on my '39 H.

I have a JD 420W. Would you recommend getting another full set of frames for switching out the cultivators and bedders, or just getting a one-row 3pt cultivator for use on the JD?

If I get the hydraulic lift cultivator frames, how hard is it to swap cylinders back and forth, or do I just need to get 2 sets of cylinders?

The frames I'm getting are hydraulic lift, but the cylinders are missing, so I need to get one set of cylinders anyway.

Thanks,

Alan

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MLD

04-14-2014 07:14:40
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 Re: Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames? in reply to AlanA, 04-12-2014 06:59:44  
Not sure I understand what your trying to do completely. The IH frames will not work on JD. If you do have a 420W, you need a two row. A 420S is the one row version. You will need two lift cylinders for the IH, one on each side. I understand they are a real bear to mount.



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Leroy

04-12-2014 16:33:43
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 Re: Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames? in reply to AlanA, 04-12-2014 06:59:44  
What would you be wanting to cultivate with a single row cultivator on that JD? Rows would have to be extra wide to get thru with a one row. I have had rear mount and always went back to the front mount.



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DeltaRed

04-12-2014 17:33:52
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 Re: Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames? in reply to Leroy, 04-12-2014 16:33:43  
Maybe he's planting wide row vegatables....



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Leroy

04-12-2014 17:40:26
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 Re: Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames? in reply to DeltaRed, 04-12-2014 17:33:52  
Either that or forgetting about width of tractor to row widths. That model is the 2 row cultivating tractor and not the 1 row that is the S version that is narrow enough fot that.



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AlanA

04-23-2014 13:53:25
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 Re: Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames? in reply to Leroy, 04-12-2014 17:40:26  
Well, that is what I come here for. 8) Been out getting heart valve replaced.

I guess the first step is describing what I'm trying to accomplish. This is not "farming", per se, just setting up a potentially rather large vegetable garden. I did a good bit of that growing up in North La. But it was stoop labor and roto-tillers, and I'm rapidly learning that roto-tilling my garden in North Central TX, even after considerable composting, is that the soil sets HARD after a rain. After my Grandpa and Dad got roto-tillers in the late 60's, a hoe never touched the garden. They set the row and bed width with the tillers, and just turned the grass under every few days. As the plants reached maturity, the bean vines had to be held back so the tiller could pass. Hey, that's what kids are for, right?

Well, the kids are all big and busy now, so need to do my gardening 1) suited to local soils, and 2) as efficiently as possible from a time and labor perspective.

I have a 39 H and a 420W that someone has trimmed about 3-4" off the axles with a torch. 8(

There will be one row size. looking at peas, beans, onion, and potatoes, at least. probably corn as well. Tomatoes and peppers will get their own corner, as well.

My original question was whether I would be better off with an extra set of frames for the H, and maybe add another H or M to the family later to handle different tool types, or try to do everything with one set of frames. The 420W is now mostly lawn mower. It usually has an RM59 Woods finish mower attached.

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DeltaRed

04-12-2014 07:11:28
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 Re: Worth getting 2 sets of cultivator frames? in reply to AlanA, 04-12-2014 06:59:44  
If your going to use them concurrently,you're gonna need a cylinder on each.Changeing cylinder daily or several times a day is a royal PIA!The IH probably uses the old (special) IH one way cylinder.The JD I think uses a 'standard' 8" farm cylinder.A 3point is easier to mount/dismount,'frees' the tractor for other uses.A mid mount will be easir to watch,therefore letting you get closer and do a 'better' job.

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