MW round balers

I stopped by the Arts Way booth at the National Farm Machinery Show and finally got an answer on the future of the M&W baler line. I was told that they have two "new" 4 x 4 balers which are aged, and probably aren't salable. At this time there are no plans to begin manufacturing, nor to spin off the product line, since there have been no improvements in years. He also stated that the net wrap was never foolproof and that is almost a prerequisite today. Parts are supposed to be continued to be supplied but last summer I had to wait several weeks for some drive gears on the elevator chain on my 5690. I have a gearbox out on my 1800 and the gears that I need are going to be over $1,100.00. At this point it's find a parts baler only. I would reconsider buying a used baler if it is going to be your primary baler. The sad part is for my operation their isn't a better baler.
 
I wouldn't have a baler with net wrap if I was baling for myself. I use twine and store my bales on pallets. 2 yrs ago I bought some net wrapped bales and they were a PITA to deal with. The custom balers like them because they are fast and they make a good looking bale most of the time. Anyone baling for themselves here stick with twine, may be a little slower but a whole lot less problems come feeding time. MHO.
 
You should be able to find parts balers cheap enought. The M&W balers around here are bringing scrap price. There is almost no one using them around here. They did not work very well. I am surprised that you get along with the darn thing. The hay had to be just the correct moisture or the chains would get plugged up.

Call Schmitt Implement At Holy Cross Iowa. They had one that they never sold from new. They rented it out a few times but that was all the use it had.
 
What is the trouble with mesh wrap. You just cut the bottom and remove it all in one go. The strings are a mess if left on the bale and take longer to remove. Plus we have alfalfa mixed hay around here. You will loose the outside 6 inches off every bale with twine. With mesh wrap it maybe 1-2 inches. The saved hay will soon pay for the mesh wrap.
 
The fact that net wrap saves hay is a fact. But this winter it would have been very difficult with the freezing rain and snow that the bales have been covered with all winter. One of the advantages that I appreciate is that truly a first timer can bale a good bale. When we have an incomplete bale we just pull through a pasture and dump what's left. So they work for me.
As for as the baler in Iowa I may give him a call I could use a road trip from Indiana.
 
Not running down net wrap, it's great. But you can get about the same results with twine and a brome grass mix. Not necessarily the best, but it worked great for me. I rented some brome grass mixed hay ground for a few years and was greatly surprised in the small amount of spoilage with twine. Normally only about 1" and sometimes in extremes 2", stored outside JD baler.
 
That's funny I use a twine M&W and do not loose six inches off every bale. I do not loose even 1 inch. The hay I save has more than paid the for the barn I put it in. I have timed myself and have cut the twine and balled it up and flip the hay ring around the bale in about sixty seconds. I can not understand why the M&W bale has such a bad rep as it does. Sure it may not be for every body but for some of us
trying to make a go they work just fine. I have none of the problems mentioned.
 
I spent this afternoon checking and have found that the KR280D appears to be exactly the same as the M&W 5690. I printed out the parts book for the Krone and compared it to the one I have for the 5690 and they have the same schematics. The only thing, does the Krone use metric bolts instead of English which is what is on the 5690?
 
I've never understood the fascination with Krone or M&W chain balers. They seem more like a marriage made in hell that combines the worst characteristics of a fixed chamber baler with the mechanical nightmare of a chain baler.
If I wanted fixed chamber baler with silage capability I'd buy a Claas Rollant. If I wanted a hard core... I'd probably buy a Claas Variant.... or at least a modern belt baler of some variety. I really don't get what all the love of chainers is about. It's a low capacity nightmare of wearing, moving parts that makes a sh!t bale.

Rod
 
Sid: Is your hay mostly grass??? If it is then it will shed the water better than mixed hay.

I used to use twine because I thought I could not justify a mesh wrap baler. My first crop hay would have a lot of spoilage. One year I had my baler go down right in the middle of first crop hay. I rented a mesh wrap baler to finish first crop with. I was amazed at the difference in the spoilage between the two.

My first crop hay is usually 50% alfalfa 50% grass. Then the next cuttings are more alfalfa as it will out grow the grass.
 
i would almost guarantee that Krone uses metric bolts... it's not too much of a problem though, grade 5 is very close to metric 8.8 lots of places carry metric now as a lot of new machinery uses it!
 
Myself i like the Krone bales . The least amount of problems and just go make hay straw corn stalks or wet bales . Yea we did have one break down due to a bearing failure but good god we are talking over 50000 bales . Yea we have to from time to time replace pick up teeth and i have had to rebuild the twine tensioner plates due to the amount of twine that has passed thru them over the years. But as far as the chain goes it has not been out of that baler . We do have the chain lube system on it and keep it working and FULL.
 
Grass and clover some lespadeza. I do agree there is a place for wrap. I do not leave hay outside. So I guess in that respect we are comparing apples to oranges.
I understand the time factor and other advantages of wrap. since I put my hay in the barn wrap is not for me.
My difference of opinion is all the problems that keep being mentioned and the fact M&W being refered to as junk when I have not had and any of the problems being mentioned. M&W may not be for everyone but they do make a good bale for me.
 
JD to be fair I gotta mention I left a lot of hay in the field loader broke down and got sick and busy with other stuff and eventually said heck with it I'll just feed it out of the field. I"LL NEVER DO that AGAIN But I still like my baler.
 
Which model of Krone do you use? The only problem with the chain that I have had has been the roller bearings but they are easy to change, affordable, and readily available.
 
I wouldn't let anyone bale hay for me with with net rap again wouldn't buy hay with net rap. Still dealing with that garbage from 10 of 15 years ago when I made the mistake of letting neighbor try out his new 565 baler.
 
(quoted from post at 09:41:02 02/18/14) I wouldn't let anyone bale hay for me with with net rap again wouldn't buy hay with net rap. Still dealing with that garbage from 10 of 15 years ago when I made the mistake of letting neighbor try out his new 565 baler.

Well I'm just the opposite. I don't want any twine wrapped bales on my place. Twine wraps around axles(unless operator is extremely cautious) and destroys axle seals. Twine is more difficult to remove from bales also. Plus I sell some hay and Netwrap if applied correctly gives bales "eye appeal"!!!!!!!!
 

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