Hay wagons! Let's see them!

ShepFL · Feb 10, 2014

I have an 8' long adjustable length Cobey running gear that needs decking. My rig will be using rough cut native cypress with removable benches & stake sides.

Rig will be used for hay rides, log hauling and just to have around since I have the running gear.

I am looking for the old thread on here about building techniques so in the mean time how 'bout posting up pics of your wagons!

Pros/Cons or Wish I had done . . . would be welcomed.

Stan - Florida · Feb 10, 2014

Cobey wagon? I envy you. Back in the '50s they were probably the best running gears available. Always wished we had one, but Dad just had the old high-wheeled wagons cut down and put on rubber. They had been alright to pull with the horses, but sure didn't trail right in road gear on our '43 JD 'B' or the '49 'A'.

Stan - Florida · Feb 10, 2014

Shep,

Are you going to Flywheelers next week?

Stan

ShepFL · Feb 10, 2014

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/extension-aben/buildingplans
N Dakota Plans

ShepFL · Feb 10, 2014

No sir. Working to much which aint a bad thing.
I also sent you an email.

Hope all is good.

Hayrack · Feb 10, 2014

This is one of my hayracks that I build...

Billy NY · Feb 10, 2014

Here is a pair

DENNIS MIN · Feb 10, 2014

Hayrack,

That silo looks heavy!

D

Leroy · Feb 10, 2014

Somebody did not cut them down correctly as they will trail perfectly at those speeds if done correctly. And the colby was a cheaper priced wagon gear and I don't think they trailed very good. Grandpa bought a new one in about 53 and it was so bad that right away it went back to the dealer that sold it and also sold Deere on a 953 Gear and that would trail. The wood gears if converted to bearing hubs would trail at 50+ MPH.

TWheat · Feb 10, 2014

Stop by the IH Building in the Village . Coffee will be ready around 8:30-9:00. John T usually stops by also.

Joe W. · Feb 10, 2014

These running gears had hay wagons on them until I got my hands on them. I threw out all the hay wagon stuff and built parade wagons on the gears. It's a fun hobby. I've built 6 of them and have the 7th in the garage waiting for warmer weather to finish it.

Stan - Florida · Feb 10, 2014

Might be able to make it over there by 8:30 or 9.00. Please drop me an e-mail - my e-mail is open.

I've met John T before, so I'll look for his golf cart.

Stan

mab570diesel · Feb 10, 2014

(quoted from post at 01:51:56 02/11/14) These running gears had hay wagons on them until I got my hands on them. I threw out all the hay wagon stuff and built parade wagons on the gears. It's a fun hobby. I've built 6 of them and have the 7th in the garage waiting for warmer weather to finish it.

s the red one a cockshutt sure looks like it to me

Stan - Florida · Feb 10, 2014

Guess my memory is not so good - I just remember things wrong sometimes.

farmerjohn · Feb 10, 2014

This was my great-grandfather's hay wagon at one time, I took off the hay rack and restored the box bed and wood wheels.

Shetland Sheepdog · Feb 10, 2014

3"x7" Red Oak stringers

2"x5" Red Oak cross ribs

1.5" Red Oak decking

All wood painted with used motor oil

Don-Wi · Feb 10, 2014

quote]is the red one a cockshutt sure looks like it to me[/quote]

The red one is an Electric running gear. They mad ethem for many different MFG's, including Case and Oliver. Probably Cockshutt as well.

I've got a 6 bolt electric torn apart that I've been wanting to put back together for a while now, just haven't had the time or motivation to do it.

Donovan from Wisconsin

showcrop · Feb 11, 2014

A tip: after attaching the cross members, lay strips of aluminum flashing on top, bending them down a little on each side. It will make both the cross-members and decking last much longer.

AG in IN · Feb 11, 2014

(quoted from post at 23:29:43 02/10/14) Somebody did not cut them down correctly as they will trail perfectly at those speeds if done correctly. And the [b:3dea8cd77d]colby[/b:3dea8cd77d] was a cheaper priced wagon gear and I don't think they trailed very good. Grandpa bought a new one in about 53 and it was so bad that right away it went back to the dealer that sold it and also sold Deere on a 953 Gear and that would trail. The wood gears if converted to bearing hubs would trail at 50+ MPH.

Leroy, I think there were manufactures named both "Cobey" and "Colby" that built running gears/wagons. I think that there may have even been a wagon/gear made by "Coby".

Dad had a Cobey gear under a hayrack. It trailed ok, but underbuilt would be a good way to describe it, especially the front bolster.

AG

ShepFL · Feb 11, 2014

Hey Joe W.

Do you have a cut list you would consider sharing? I like the looks of those, maybe not utilitarian but would be cool for the county fair etc.

My email is open.

Part Time Pete · Feb 11, 2014

I did mine similar to Billy. I use larch and treat it with motor oil. For the main rails I doubled up pressure treated 2x8's. As mentioned before, the flashing is important - I also lay out the floor boards so that one is centered over each of the rails. I made a metal one also, but the material is a lot more expensive.

gtractorfan · Feb 11, 2014

That is just plain NEAT!

Joe W. · Feb 11, 2014

I'll bet you are correct that the gear was built by Electric Wheel who built for many nameplates. Mine was a New Idea 629 gear. It had the aluminum tag rivited to the frame with the model and serial number.

Joe W. · Feb 11, 2014

After fumbling around trying to figure out how to email you on modern or classic viewing format, I think I figured it out. I sent you something and if you don't receive it, I must have messed up. If you don't receive the message from me, shout it out on this public forum and I'll just post my email address for you. I've got plenty of photos to share.

Dean in iowa · Feb 11, 2014

These are John Deere wagons and barge boxes I restore. Use them for hay, grain, hayrides, parades or whatever!

ASEguy · Feb 15, 2014

You do nice work Joe. What do you do with them when you are finished?

Al L. in Wisc. · Feb 16, 2014

Shetland Sheepdog; am I looking at it wrong or do you have a round barn?!!

Shetland Sheepdog · Feb 16, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:30:25 02/16/14) Shetland Sheepdog; am I looking at it wrong or do you have a round barn?!!

Nope! Not round! Plain old rectangle!
Dave

Edit:
East side of the same building.

South end of the building!

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