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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Conditioning Rolls

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Hay maker2

12-30-2013 15:09:25
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Does anyone have any expericance with aftermarket conditioning rolls from Circle C Equipment or B&D Rollers? I"m intersted in getting a set for my haybine. Both the Circle C and the B&D are about $3000.00 for a set of rolls....Both advertise the same thing and both says that the other is junk. Any advise would be great. Thanks




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9060

12-31-2013 06:01:12
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Hay maker2, 12-30-2013 15:09:25  
We have the third generation circle C rolls in our NH 1431 discbine. They struggle pulling in small grains but work fine in alfalfa or mixed hay. The hay dries 15% faster with them vs the original chevron rollers. That equates to starting baling at 2 pm instead of 4:30 pm. To us, that is pretty significant. We've done lots of drying trials. They have paid for themselves many times.



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Mike(NEOhio)

12-30-2013 19:05:11
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Hay maker2, 12-30-2013 15:09:25  
What kind of haybine are you running? I have a JD 1207 and the rolls are really shot. I check with mother deere a couple years back and they wanted $1300 apiece.



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Hay maker2

12-31-2013 05:13:41
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 12-30-2013 19:05:11  
I have a John Deere 1209. I priced new rolls from Deere and they are $2600.00 each... I know most people will laugh at me form considering spending $3000.00 on new rolls for a JD 1209, but I can't afford to spend $25,000.00 on a new machine. The price of used equipment is sky high. I have been looking at all makes and modles and if I spend $12,000.00 I can find a 10 year old machine, if I spend $6000.00 I can get a 25 year old machine. I would much rather install new rolls into a machine that I have used for the last 25 years and know what I have. I do thiank you for your relpy.

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Brendon-KS

12-30-2013 17:16:10
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Hay maker2, 12-30-2013 15:09:25  
When I have observed Circle C rolls vs. factory rolls in otherwise identical headers running in the field it always appears that the capacity is reduced considerably due to poor feeding. The rolls just aren't as aggressive as intermeshing rolls. There have been many iterations of groove patterns over the years in an attempt to solve this issue. My experience is from quite a while back so maybe this has been improved with later designs. A number of the operators we interact with used to have one or two of their machines set up with them but now it seems you just don't see them around anymore, at least in the areas we work in. The factory-made conditioner designs have improved over the years and as a result the benefits of aftermarket systems has decreased, especially when warranty and resale value is factored in.

This is just my experience from field observations and talking to windrower owners and operators so take it for what it's worth.

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Hay maker2

12-31-2013 05:17:17
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Brendon-KS, 12-30-2013 17:16:10  
Thnaks, I guess do they crush the hay good? Does the hay dry down better is what my main question is. I will be using these in a JD 1209 haybine and I usually run between 4 - 5 mph. I don't want to think that i will have a feeding problem at these speeds, but I do not know for sure??????



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Elton Fancher

01-01-2014 14:34:42
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Hay maker2, 12-31-2013 05:17:17  
I have a 1209 and a 1219 junked. Both have pretty good rollers. Would be cheap. May go to scrap soon.



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hay maker 2

01-02-2014 05:49:15
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Elton Fancher, 01-01-2014 14:34:42  
Like wise, where are you located at?



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Elton Fancher

01-05-2014 03:07:14
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to hay maker 2, 01-02-2014 05:49:15  
I am in central Ky. near Glasgow.



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NY 986

01-02-2014 05:27:49
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to Elton Fancher, 01-01-2014 14:34:42  
Where are they at?



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Elton Fancher

01-06-2014 15:30:31
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 Re: Conditioning Rolls in reply to NY 986, 01-02-2014 05:27:49  
Phone is 270-670-4918 if you are close.



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