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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief)

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JakeBrakeIH

12-30-2013 09:59:36
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So as of recent I have been doing some more reading about different plow bottoms and parts. I just picked up another Super C, and it came with a C-20 plow. Bad news is, the guy who owned it before me cut off the fast hitch points. I ended up taking the plow apart, removing the bottoms, coulters, and tail wheel which all look to be in good shape. I have a few pics of the bottoms, and I was looking to see what you guys thought. I would like to rebuild them if necessary and have a spare set for my current fast hitch plow. Leave them? Replace the share?
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Also my C-20 plow I use now does not have the moldboard extensions on it. Are they worth putting on? Ive read they help a lot with sod? My plow I use now also has a long landslide. What do people like better, long landslide or tail wheel? Just curious.

Thanks for your help!

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JakeBrakeIH

01-01-2014 10:41:05
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
Thank you all for the replies. I will probably go ahead and hang on to these as spares, and eventually put some new parts on them. The plow I have now seems to do a real good job. I have been doing some more reading, and it looks like I did not install the rear coulter properly(too far forward) and seemed like the furrow wall would crumble. I would like to set the rear tires again as I think I have them too far out(and I know my new super c is way too wide). What is the width supposed to be for 12.4 with 2 14" bottoms?
I will go ahead and put those extensions on also. And thanks for the info on the tail wheel. Perhaps I will get some time and rebuild these moldboards and clean up the tail wheel and try it out. I am going to try and get this thing all set up and travel to my cousins farm and spend a few days rolling over some dirt.
Here is a picture of my Super C I originally had(Great grandfathers original tractor from our farm) and my C-20 plow after plowing about an acre. Bottoms shined up decent, always tends to stick up on the top? I will try to maybe use a wire wheel prior to get that area cleaned up before dropping it into the dirt.

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Here is the new Super C. Tin is in rough shape, but overall the tractor seems pretty tight and tons of power. Fast hitch is super tight compared to my old C. Tried out the C-36 disc quick seeing the plow was put away. Need to go through that top to bottom(need to find parts!).

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LA in WI

12-31-2013 11:50:15
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
Jake,
If you are saving these moldboards for spares you have no need to worry about wear as they look fine. Unless you are plowing in rocky soil or plowing a lot of acres those parts will last you a long time. I suggest you clean them up, coat them with grease and store then inside and off the ground.
Most old plows had a longer landside on the rear bottom. With your setup you probably do not need a tail wheel. Many old plows (such as model #4) used a "solid" tail wheel which was not much more functional than a landside only. As you plow you will find out whether you need a tailwheel. Suggest you take off the extensions and put them on the plow you now use...they do help cover trash and they really have no downside.
Hang onto those moldboards...they are better than money in a bank! I wish they were mine.
LA in WI

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wolfman

12-30-2013 18:25:23
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
Tail wheel is much better than sliding landslide. For one thing, it doesn't wear out. While those bottoms are off the plow and up on that workbench (ok the trailer), now would be a great time to replace all the worn parts. Yes, it's time for new parts.



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AG in IN

12-30-2013 16:56:40
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
FWIW, new IH 14" regular shares were 4 1/2 inches from top to bottom.
AG
This post was edited by AG in IN at 16:59:25 12/30/13 2 times.



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Paul

12-30-2013 12:05:08
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
I'd agree the first shin looks worn down, which wears the bottom quicker.

Otherwise looks like some life left in the parts.

I find its good to have some spare parts on hand, when you hook a rock or whatever and a part breaks sure is nice to just bolt another on and keep going. Whether you leave these as is and have new on hand, or you rebuild these with new and keep these old parts on hand, either way would work for me.

Paul

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jdleach

12-30-2013 11:15:47
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
I have seen a helluva lot worse. My Little Wonder 2-14 from the late 20's has decent plow points, but the moldboards are nearly transparent. The trailing edge of the boards are worn to a razor, and there are pinholes throughout the middle area. Since you can only find replacement parts from another Wonder plow, my plow has basically reached the end of its life. Plans are now to restore the plow to a visually appealing level, then just display it. Yard art if you will.

Since the #8 Little Genius is still so numerous, I bought one on steel yesterday, and will use it on the garden and plow days. The points are good, and there is still a lot of meat on the shares and moldboards. Too, it is much easier to find plow parts for the Genius' than the Wonders.

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AG in IN

12-30-2013 10:43:34
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
The shin in the first picture appears to be worn. The curvature of the edge appears to be altered from wear. If so, it may be worn thin as well, and could have caused excessive wear to the moldboard, but it's hard to tell with a picture.

The shares and points don't look great, but may be servicable. I'd say they're nearing the end of their lifespan as they are. Both the shares and points are considerably worn, but if you aren't plowing serious acreage with them, they may do the job for years to come.
Do not allow wear anywhere to compromise the frog or retaining hardware and do not allow excess wear in any wear part to compromise another wear part .
Those moldboard extensions help in sod, but can also help when plowing at slower speeds.
Long landside? Tail wheel? Don't forget rolling landsides, too. I'd rather have some kind of wheel, but it's not necessary. Without any wheel, a long landside is almost always desired equipment on the rear bottom.

AG
This post was edited by AG in IN at 10:45:07 12/30/13.

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Big Fat Herb

12-30-2013 10:39:10
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
They don't look to bad to me the shares could stand to be replaced.What about the disk big or small pts.?



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farmallboy15

12-30-2013 10:34:33
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 Re: Are my plow parts wore out??? (Plow Chief) in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 12-30-2013 09:59:36  
The bottoms look to be in pretty good shape. The share is a little worn but it will last a long time with just plow days... I have a set of fast hitch points from a plow of you want them. I think they are the larger set but could be ground down.



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