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Re: JD 7000 planter vs 7200 planter

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LA in WI

11-06-2013 21:23:50
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Mike, I am on my 3rd Precision Planting machine thru 15 years and have installed thousands of PP components. I also have many new prospects bringing in KZ or JD meters for inspection/calibration. In spite of those thinner carriers, the KZ fingers, if in good condition, will produce fewer skips with flats than JD. With round seed, the JD do fine and the KZ will sometimes produce a few multiples. As skips are the most costly in a field I do not install any JD parts in any meter.

The thinner KZ finger carriers do well until the finger wear dictates replacing with PP sets. That "scare story" about those KZ carriers is mostly negative hype.

Yes, the PP components are the best performing.
Yes, the PP composite back plate with the adjustable brush is the way to go. With fingers showing wear in any meter, I always replace with a PP finger set.

However, I do not push new PP parts on a customer until the situation warrants (running the meters on the machine is the real test). If new parts are warranted, I always check with the customer first and, after I give him the options, I let him decide how he wants to spend his money.

LA in WI

Check the skip stops for cracking every chance you get. "Nuf said.

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Mike Aylward

11-07-2013 05:50:26
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 Re: JD 7000 planter vs 7200 planter in reply to LA in WI, 11-06-2013 21:23:50  
In my experience the thin Kinze carriers are not "hype". I am not a Precision dealer and do not care if I install them or not. I recently did two different Kinze planters with one being only three crop years old. They complained it never really did the job they expected it to do. Every row in the planter was not up to expectations regardless of seed size or type. I usually run at least three different seed sizes on each test. All components had been replaced EXCEPT the carriers as they appeared to be ok. I had a used John Deere carrier on hand from my previous planter (7000) and installed it just to see what happened. It worked much better. We went ahead and installed PP parts, including the carrier, and it would consistently plant in excess of 98.5-99%. It would only do about 91% as delivered. While I have not done this for as many years as you have I HAVE rebuilt finger meters for nearly 30 years. Every Kinze/Shoup carrier that I have checked has acted EXACTLY like this. Mike

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