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Re: John Deere Plow

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10-24-2013 19:24:59

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I will take some better pictures tomorrow when it's light out and will write down the beam numbers

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10-25-2013 18:00:44

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to Jdgal, 10-24-2013 19:24:59  

The frame/beams of that plow are positively JD 4 and will say 632A on long beam and 583A on short MFg '39-'47. Those wheels are not original to the plow and may very well be Oliver as with the crank.Here is a JD # 4B plow to compare.

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Bob Collins

10-25-2013 18:54:57

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to B-maniac, 10-25-2013 18:00:44  
The John Deere #4 and #4A plows have a leveling crank instead of the lever used on the later 4B (and 4C & 4D) This sure looks like a #4 with different wheels. #4 made 1929 -1930. #4A 1930-1935.

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10-25-2013 19:18:17

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to Bob Collins, 10-25-2013 18:54:57  
I learn a little more every day on here. Thanks, Bob! RB.

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10-25-2013 19:20:32

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to B-maniac, 10-25-2013 19:18:17  
also I misprinted the beam # should be 623A , fingers got ahead of brain.

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Bob Collins

10-26-2013 06:14:06

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to B-maniac, 10-25-2013 19:20:32  
And I forgot to mention some of those 4 & 4A plows used beams 583 and 584 before the 623 was used. The suffix "A" is part of the part number but it isn't stamped into the beam.

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10-26-2013 20:21:09

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to Bob Collins, 10-26-2013 06:14:06  
I think it's a No. 4 based on what I can see of the hitch. I've got a very late 4A and it shares many of the same features as the No. 4. The No. 4 hitch was more like a "Y" shape rather than a straight hitch bar and a simple diagonal brace. I've seen some wierd stuff with oliver bottoms on JD plows and what not, but have never seen oliver wheels on a JD plow. It would be interesting to see what the land wheel looks like.
Tyler B in IL

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Bob Collins

10-27-2013 11:54:26

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 Re: John Deere Plow in reply to Tyler-MO, 10-26-2013 20:21:09  
Tyler, What I look for to distinguish a 4 from a 4A is the support for the leveling crank. The 4 has it bolted to the furrow side beam and the 4A has it bolted to the front cross member. Early 4A plows had a one piece support, while later during/after 1934 plows had a two piece adjustable support. In his picture, I can't see where it is attached. There are other differences too, just where I start looking. Bob

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