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Best forage wagon for green chop

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10-24-2013 16:07:05

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Hello, I am looking to green chop forage from a Brady flail mower into a silage wagon and am looking for reccomendations on models or features to look for. Looking to spend less than $2500, would like a 14 footer, and it has to handle shredded, rough cut flailed forage. I bought an IH 51 and have had no luck with it, the conveyor jams up with the chop.
If you know of such a beast near western Connecticut would be great to know.

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10-26-2013 07:15:58

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to booch, 10-24-2013 16:07:05  
I helped a nieghbour for a week when his hired man was on holidays many years ago.He was out of haylage at the time so he was using a Gehl greenchopper and a Dion wagon to bring in forage to the barn every day.I remember the wagon dropping the stuff on a piece of plywood so it could be forked into the conveyor to go to the bunk feeder in the dairy barn.The Dion wagon could be set for very slow unloading but the forage still came out in clumps.

Is there any way you could use a manure spreader maybe with extensions?It would probably handle the long material. Maybe with a belt conveyor hanging on the back to shoot the material sideways?

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10-26-2013 01:16:48

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to booch, 10-24-2013 16:07:05  
Are you feeding a large number of cattle or feeding cattle in different lots? because if not it is much easier and less handling to chop directly into a feeder wagon or box and drop it in the feed lot every day.

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10-24-2013 21:52:23

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to booch, 10-24-2013 16:07:05  
We ran greenchop through older Rex and H&S wagons without anu problems one year when we tried grass silage. Had a New Holland green chopper but it didn't chop too fine either.

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10-24-2013 17:16:24

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to booch, 10-24-2013 16:07:05  
The biggest problem with that is not the forage wagon, it"s the chopper in front, shredding stuff that simply doesn"t feed out evenly without plugging. Get a uniform chop and any wagon should feed it.

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10-24-2013 17:26:32

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to JMS/.MN, 10-24-2013 17:16:24  
There really aren't a whole lot of adjustments on the chopper. I am in creeper range on teh tractor at very high throttle, flails are in very good shape. I'm shredding sorghum-sudangrasss and its comes out in 2 to 4 inch pieces, best I can get.

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10-25-2013 08:01:43

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to booch, 10-24-2013 17:26:32  
If you"re green chopping, are you feeding it right away, like in daily chopping? Here green chop was chopped directly into a feeder wagon, which was parked in the feeding area.

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10-26-2013 18:54:55

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to JMS/.MN, 10-25-2013 08:01:43  
Guess I should have divulged my whole crazy scheme. We work a 22 acre vegetable farm and make a lot of compost. There are few farms left in our area so manure is scarce, and even if we could get it the phosphourus levels in our soil were crazy high when we got here, so adding 'hot' manures (cow, chicken) not a good idea anyway. We get heavily bedded horse manure but it takes forever to compost with no nitrogen source. I have a Brady flail I bought to flail cover crops, so I thought hey lets just chop into a wagon and feed the compost piles. Then the plugging I solved it by cutting the back off the wagon and running the apron in reverse and just dumping the chop on teh ground. Then I can go super fast chopping, and dumping takes no time. We have several 200 foot X 10 foot high by 10 foot wide piles. We make windrows by feeding into a manure spreader so we need a lot of green chop to make this work. Made some progress today by just skipping the conveyor. Thanks to everyone who posted ideas. Best, Paul

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10-25-2013 07:00:48

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 Re: Best forage wagon for green chop in reply to booch, 10-24-2013 17:26:32  
That's as good as you'll get from any flail chopper. There is no wagon that will feed that stuff real well...but any with a real slow main apron speed should work. We've run green chopped grass and shredded corn stalk bedding through both Badger and Forage King chopper boxes. Generally works OK, as long as the low speed on the apron works. Sometimes wraps on the beaters. (The Forage King boxes I have are the ones made in Ridgeland, WI... that company closed years ago. I understand there is another company 'out east' using the Forage King name now.)

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