MF 12 baler or JD14T

I believe the MF is a faster/'bigger' baler.As a former MF# owner,I would take the JD over the MF any day
 
If you looking for a baler look for a New Holland you will be by far better off. The JDs are ok but hands down the NH is far easier to keep working. I have owned and work on both brands and the NH is a whole lot better and easier to do thing to
 
IIRC a 14t is going to be about 20 years older than the #12. But, I think JD is going to be better on parts availability than MF and I'm certain junkyard/fence row JDs are a lot more common. The MF may be faster and bigger, but they also have a rep for finicky knotters that have to be kept relatively clean whereas the JD has a rep for working for years without a lot of problems. Later Masseys are reported to be much better about the knotter issue. I think you'd have to compare the 2 and see which appears to be the better machine. Just FYI- JD 14 t's are often given away in my area as spares to guys down on their luck or starting out, they are that common. A real nice one might bring $5-700.00 tops. No clue what a MF 12 would bring, but not much more seems likely.
 
(quoted from post at 13:53:46 10/08/13) Is a MF12 a better , faster baler than a 14T. Thanks

There is a REASON 14ts are dime a dozen, nobody wants one. I would run from a 14t. A #12 MF baled 1000's of bales around this place in the 80's and ironically enough a 14t that wouldn't tie was traded on it. A neighbor bought a 14t new and had trouble with it right from the get go, dealer mechanic left a note on the tractor to the affect the the miserable son of gun wouldn't tie and he didn't know why. They ended up with a 24t.
 
I have never owned a Massey but have stacked on the wagon behind a 12 that worked great, and they had a good reputation around here in their day. I owned a 14T myself, and I hated that SOB. I spent countless hours and money trying to make a baler out of it, all to no use. I said it got its name because if you had a hundred bales to make, it would tie 14 of them !
 
The later model 14T with the twine holding guides/plates under the knotter work rather well and also have some improvements in the knotter area. Parts may be hard to come by..as per previous comments. But my late model (1960) worked rather well..I had a category 1 ejector on it. My early (1954) model was .. well let's just say ..a work in progress.
 
Over the years, I've had 2 14T's and 2 24T's. In the used market, if it makes bales, they are often about the same price. The 24T has more parts availability then the 14, and is a far better baler. On our last 24T, it had the #30 hydraulic pan thrower, and it baled a huge number of bales for us. If you find a used baler with the early mechanical thrower, run away from it as fast as you can. The mechanical thrower wore out the baler's driveline unmercifully fast.

One of our landloards had a MF #12, and my son would pull bales out of the chute and stack on the wagon behind that baler. The owner may have been a good auto mechanic, but he didn't know enough about balers, so my son was constantly trying to help him fix it. I don't know if it was a good baler model or not, but my JD 24T would do hundreds of bales compared to a single wagon load from that MF 12.

Parts availability is crucial. Baling is time critical, there is always a rain storm just over the horizon. And I think that means the choice should be between a New Holland and a JD baler (but not a 14T).

Paul in MN
 
We have a 14T that always bales and ties good, but it's slower than molasses. Ours has a Wisconsin, a PTO baler may be faster.
 

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