Values just tripled! You can bet some will use that to justify their higher price when they go to sell one of the two. I know they are sold just not around me but I wonder how many of the new stackwagons have been sold each year for the past say 5 years?? There are a few old pull type models around here and there use to be one selfpropelled model but I haven't seen it in 10 years or more. Not a lot of square baled hay left around here. If there is most have some type of an accumlator that they run on the back of the baler.