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Re: Hay Wagon Sizes

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Rick Borland

08-12-2013 05:33:08
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We just recently built a new wagon bed using 4 x 6 sills and 4 x 4 cross beams then topped off with 5/4 x 6 boards onto an old John Deere running gear. The wagon can be used for bales and the grandchildren can decorate it for parades. As we get older we do not like handling heavy bales. We make our 14 x 18 bales 32 inches long weighing about 40-45 pounds each. The way we stack 32 + 32 + 18 wide = 82 inches. Our wagon bed is 7 x 14. We usually put about 100 bales on it. This keeps it easier to unload and very maneuverable in the barn. We put up about 700 bales this year.

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Super-H-Mike

08-12-2013 09:58:24
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 Re: Hay Wagon Sizes in reply to Rick Borland, 08-12-2013 05:33:08  
Yours looks exactly like what I have in mind... The big wagons are not needed for my farm size and I feel will be handier as you stated. Did you use angle irons and bolts to hold the cross beams to the main sills ?



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Rick Borland

08-13-2013 03:53:12
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 Re: Hay Wagon Sizes in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-12-2013 09:58:24  
The sills and crossbeams are bolted through with 3/8 carriage bolts. Countersunk the heads slightly. Used 1/4 carriage bolts on decking and tail stop. I had picked up a set of 12 inch bits at an auction about 10 years ago. If using pressure treated lumber be sure to get the special plated bolts that won't rot away from the chemicals. It was cheaper to buy a box of 100 - 1/4 x 6 carriage bolts. We then used bolt cutters to trim the longer ones and a 4 inch grinder to smooth the ends. The 5/4 boards are bolted at the ends and two other crossbeams. 3 1/2 inch grip type plated nails used elsewhere.

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Super-H-Mike

08-13-2013 07:07:31
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 Re: Hay Wagon Sizes in reply to Rick Borland, 08-13-2013 03:53:12  
I think I will copy what you did pretty closely. I wonder though if the decking needs to be bolted as well as nailed, what I am thinking is it may be more prone to cracking or splitting when the deck twists on rough uneven ground ? One thing I learned from my buddy, he used deck screws on his, and they snap off all the time from stress of twisting.



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Rick Borland

08-13-2013 10:42:01
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 Re: Hay Wagon Sizes in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-13-2013 07:07:31  
Nails might have been a little over the top, but I was repairing an old chicken house at the same time and had the nails and thought maybe I should nail the boards to the crossbeams where I hadn't bolted them. Time will tell. I did build a wagon bed about 10 years ago out of rough cut oak and screwed the boards down. The oak has both cracked and screws snapped off from twisting. I had to go back and bolt the boards down. Forgot to mention, on the wagon pictured I split a 5/4 x 6 right down the middle and lined the sides and back so bales couldn't slide off as easily.

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Larry NEIL

08-13-2013 09:13:19
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 Re: Hay Wagon Sizes in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-13-2013 07:07:31  
I built one three years ago like that 8' X14' with 4"X6" sills and 4"x4" cross members with 2"x6" deck and used deck screws to fasten it down. Haven't had one screw come loose or break.



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