IH Cyclo 800 question - fertilizer?

Dave H (MI) · Aug 8, 2013

Appreciate all the help with the sprayer! Sorry to disappear on that one but I was off loading and bringing home this corn planter. Got a good price on it as they are taking a back seat to the 900 in the used market. This is a good one and has dry fertilizer which, of course, is the roughest part of the unit. I have available a liquid fertilizer complete set I could pick up but don't know a lot about this. At the risk of sounding...I know what you put in the dry boxes but what do you put in the liquid containers? Which is more effective? My dry boxes are useable but don't want the liquid to go by if they are better in any way. Hope this is understandable, any comments appreciated. I would be planting anywhere from 10 to 50 acres per year with this thing to start.

paul · Aug 8, 2013

Typically dry is cheaper,

Liquid is easier for big farmers to haul and pump.

Liquid can be placed to the side like dry, or put on the row in the seed trench. Two different things, then.

In the trench, you need low salt types, and are applying a low dose of pop up fertilizer to get the plant going, until it hits the rest of your fertilizer you applied some other way.

So, are you comparing apples to apples, which type of liquid are you looking at?

Paul

JD Seller · Aug 8, 2013

I would stick to the dry fertilizer for the amount of corn you are raising. With the liquid fertilizer you would need a tank and pump to handle the liquid fertilizer. Also the choices are just a few on liquid fertilizer. The dry fertilizer can be mixed for many different analyzes. The dry fertilizer can be bought in bags or just hauled in a gravity wagon then use five gallon buckets under the chute to handle the fertilizer.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 8, 2013

Late 800's nearly the same as the 900. Update the rear press wheel assembly and you couldn't tell the difference. Dry is cheaper but more difficult to handle. I use a gravity wagon and side auger, but it is significant work to clean everything after planting. The planter has a fertilizer auger/distributor above the boxes, but only farm about fifty acres and it is such a pain to clean that we didn't use it after the first year. Just need to precisely maneuver the wagon and auger a couple of times during filling. Boxes need filled about every ten acres. If we farmed the acres currently cash rented to a local farmer, wouldn't hesitate to again use the overhead box auger. Thought about spraying everything with fluid film before using and see if the job become easier. For ten or so acres bags would work well, but for fifty you probably would lose the cost advantage. Liquid requires a tank, pump, and perhaps something to agitate the fertilizer if it sets too long. Tanks and pumps can occasionally be bought cheap at an auction. I've bought both pretty reasonable but have no intention of converting to liquid.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 8, 2013

Do have a original Operator for the IH 800 planter for sale if interested. [email protected]

Dave H (MI) · Aug 8, 2013

I do appreciate it, but not only was the planter fairly priced but it came with pretty much everything you would want...manual in original IH padded binder, depth gauge keychain for the firming points, even has the original safety chain for the folding drawbar as pictured in the parts book. Original owner removed and scrapped the end transport tongue and axle because he was never gonna leave the farm with it though. If you got one of those let's talk!

Dave H (MI) · Aug 8, 2013

OK...thanks to all! I am sold on staying with dry. Sounds like it would just be easier. I can use bags for the first year and update my equipment for 2015 for more acres. That will buy me some time. Appreciate all the input! Very interesting.

VicS · Aug 9, 2013

There has to be a naysayer. I went through the pop-up fertilizer question. Don't even give it a though anymore. Put on 200 18-46-0 200 0-0-60 and 100 46-0-0 with sayfner then side-dressed 120 anhydrous, actual. Then don't fertilize the beans next year. Try to put fert on about 2 weeks before we plant. A 7000 JD or Kinze will pay for itself even on that few acres. All the seed needs to germinate the same day or its neighbor thinks it is a weed. You will never get consistence depth control with a air planter. New air planters just move seed to the meters from a central fill box. I know you won't like this but it is the truth. Vic

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