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Re: This baler is driving me crazy!

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RodInNS

07-09-2013 19:20:32
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For curiosity you might try the poly and see what happens. If might at least be useful for diagnosis...
How is the poly a problem with the fleece?

Rod




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RayP(MI)

07-09-2013 19:32:06
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 Re: This baler is driving me crazy! in reply to RodInNS, 07-09-2013 19:20:32  
Poly gets in the fleece, is extremely difficult to remove, mechanical carders won't remove it. Then there's the problem of animals getting caught up in it, wrapped around legs, etc. Not to mention getting it in the machinery - manure spreaders, mowers, choppers, etc. Had a farmer rent the farm years back. Took me a long time to rid the farm of all the carelessly discarded poly. At least sisal is biodegradable.

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Bret4207

07-10-2013 06:16:44
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 Re: This baler is driving me crazy! in reply to RayP(MI), 07-09-2013 19:32:06  

RayP(MI) said: (quoted from post at 19:32:06 07/09/13) Poly gets in the fleece, is extremely difficult to remove, mechanical carders won't remove it. Then there's the problem of animals getting caught up in it, wrapped around legs, etc. Not to mention getting it in the machinery - manure spreaders, mowers, choppers, etc. Had a farmer rent the farm years back. Took me a long time to rid the farm of all the carelessly discarded poly. At least sisal is biodegradable.


Ray, no offense intended, but I raise sheep too and what you're saying makes no sense to me. You aren't just throwing a square out and leaving the twine on it are you? I guess I just don't understand where all the poly issues are coming from. We take the twine off the bale and it all gets brought back to the barn for later use or burning. I've heard other folks talk about problems like this with poly. I know if I don't keep on my "help" (the kids) they will leave it lay, but otherwise it's a non-issue.

Poly twine turned my NH 68 into a never miss knotter.
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RodInNS

07-09-2013 19:48:05
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 Re: This baler is driving me crazy! in reply to RayP(MI), 07-09-2013 19:32:06  
I guess I don't understand how it gets in the fleece? It's never been a problem here.

Rod



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07-10-2013 05:41:35
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 Re: This baler is driving me crazy! in reply to RodInNS, 07-09-2013 19:48:05  
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When we had sheep and supplied to other sheep breeders it was a big deal. The JD 336, when it cut the twine, left two short pieces on top of the bale, and those short pieces COULD get into a bale. Once in the bale they went into the hay feeder rack, and then they could easily get onto the sheep's neck. Poly in the fleece doesn't show up until it melts, then it is a major problem in production.

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RodInNS

07-10-2013 06:23:53
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 Re: This baler is driving me crazy! in reply to showcrop, 07-10-2013 05:41:35  
Yes, the knotter always leaves those two short pieces... I find they usually fall off long before they ever get to the barn tho.... but all of mine are handled and stored on edge too. I was just curious about the reasoning because I've never ever heard of that before. Of all the things that the mills have bitched about in wool that's never one that was mentioned either... Granted, we don't feed squares to sheep either. It's been all rounds for a long time.

Rod

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07-10-2013 18:38:58
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 Re: This baler is driving me crazy! in reply to RodInNS, 07-10-2013 06:23:53  
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There was an article about it in one of the publications probably over ten years ago now, that even had pictures showing the melted twine in the partially processed wool, and then what it did once it got into the carder or something.



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