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Re: 24T Baler problem

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Tx Jim

03-02-2013 09:30:58

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If the needles are partially in the bale chamber I strongly suspect the needle brake is at fault. The random flywheel shear bolt problem leans toward faulty needle brake. In all my years repairing/owning JD sq balers I can't remember the trip dog once engaged not pulling needles through their cycle.

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03-02-2013 12:28:01

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 Re: 24T Baler problem in reply to Tx Jim, 03-02-2013 09:30:58  
JIm, the problem we had was the needle arm was engaging the dog and holding it out of the chamber, but not far enough. The pitman had a couple of angular bends, and a clevis on the needle arm. The pitman had straightened some over the years because of the bends in it, and allowed the dog to protrude just up into the chamber, and the head would catch it at an irregular time and shear the shear bolt. It may have just been wear in the connecting pins, but was a pain in the ask to find. And I may be wrong, but my needles on my 14T come into the chamber during the decomp stroke, tie and are moved out during the start of the compession stroke, so they are not in the chamber at all when the head is the chamber....

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03-03-2013 04:48:30

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 Re: 24T Baler problem in reply to donjr, 03-02-2013 12:28:01  
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If your 14T operates as you describe it needs to be "timed correctly". Yes the PH stop mechanism can wear/stretch to allow stop to contact PH or arm prematurely. This is common malfunction on newer JD balers such as the 336. The arm(boomerang parts key #12) that needle frame contacts stretches(angle increases) and allows this to happen.

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