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Topic: JD 1209
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djm75

02-22-2013 04:25:21
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I am looking at buying a JD 1209 haybine just looking for some input on them good bad or what have you. Thanks




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Fff

02-23-2013 16:31:25
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to djm75, 02-22-2013 04:25:21  
I had a 1207 for years, same machine exactly really but 2feet shorter. If you take the time to read the manual and get it adjusted correctly they cut very well. I used to mow at 3 mph in reed canary grass 4ft tall and it never plugged. They are elderly machines now so look at the wobble box and rollers.



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NY 986

02-23-2013 06:20:39
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to djm75, 02-22-2013 04:25:21  
I guess I am late to the discussion but here goes. I think at the serial number break Tx Jim mentioned Deere also improved the knife bar head assembly. I also believe this happened fairly early in the production run so there were many model years made with the improvement. They were made from the early 1970's (1971?) through 1983. They were one of those products that showed up on a variety of farms regardless of the brand of tractor there along with the 336 baler and 7000 planter back then. As many 1209's back in the day around here as there were NH or Hesston's.

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Tx Jim

02-23-2013 06:34:53
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to NY 986, 02-23-2013 06:20:39  
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I think you're correct on the updated knife head but I would have thought those old type ball joint heads had gone to China by now.



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NY 986

02-23-2013 10:08:16
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to Tx Jim, 02-23-2013 06:34:53  
I thought the wobble mounts were different as well but I have only seen the newer assemblies. I wanted a brand new 1219 when they came out in 1984 but I was in college so we bought a used NH to save money.



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Tx Jim

02-23-2013 04:25:54
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to allen in texas, 02-22-2013 04:25:21  

Scott(MO) said: (quoted from post at 01:39:23 02/23/13) When cutting clover, I experimented with the reel speed and found that it worked better with a higher reel speed. Never tried the angle of teeth.

I'll have to say that Tyler is right though about belt slippage being a problem sometimes too.Scott


When belt slippage is a problem have you tried tightening or replacing the belt?

This post was edited by Tx Jim at 04:26:37 02/23/13.

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Scott(MO)

02-24-2013 00:02:42
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to Tx Jim, 02-23-2013 04:25:54  
Yes, worked on tightening and changed the belt



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Tyler-MO

02-22-2013 15:56:24
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to djm75, 02-22-2013 04:25:21  
I cut a lot of acres with a 1209 years back. The only problems we had were the reel drive belt slipping and broke a U joint on the gear case to roll drive.

Something else to be aware of is the urethane rolls. I've seen some that had gotten hole(s) in one or both rolls and it seems that the urethane can seperate from the roll...last time I checked new rolls from JD weren't available. Just be sure to turn it through and inspect the rolls carefully.

We would also replace some plastic bushings in ends of the reels from time to time as they would wear and get sloppy.

Good luck and happy hunting!
Tyler in IL

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Scott(MO)

02-22-2013 11:21:17
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to djm75, 02-22-2013 04:25:21  

I have always liked mine although it doesn't do the greatest job in heavy clover and transportation down narrow roads can be tricky (wish it was a center pivot instead to one side.) But all in all, a pretty dependable machine.



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Tx Jim

02-22-2013 12:50:11
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to Scott(MO), 02-22-2013 11:21:17  
On cutting clover have you checked to be sure the reel speed & setting of teeth angle is correct for that crop?



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Scott(MO)

02-22-2013 22:39:23
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to Tx Jim, 02-22-2013 12:50:11  
When cutting clover, I experimented with the reel speed and found that it worked better with a higher reel speed. Never tried the angle of teeth.
I'll have to say that Tyler is right though about belt slippage being a problem sometimes too.

Scott



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Tx Jim

02-22-2013 12:49:07
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to Scott(MO), 02-22-2013 11:21:17  
On cutting clover have you checked to be sure the reel speed & setting of teeth angle is correct for that crop?



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ron wis

02-22-2013 04:51:14
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to djm75, 02-22-2013 04:25:21  
Bought one new 1977. If you have small rocks in field you will learn to duck the reel runs pretty fast and it will launch rocks at ya. Look at gearbox mounting plate for cracks. Cut a lot of hay with it very little trouble.



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Scott(MO)

02-22-2013 22:41:50
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to ron wis, 02-22-2013 04:51:14  
I know what you mean about the rocks flying ron. I hit a box turtle a couple of years ago and he took quite a ride!

Scott



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Tx Jim

02-22-2013 05:24:27
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to ron wis, 02-22-2013 04:51:14  
Besides looking for cracks on the gearbox mounting bracket if it's had much welding done on the bracket run don't walk away. Also check to be sure sickle drive arm is tight on wobblebox. I'd prefer the machine after SN 285001 because it will only have one lift cylinder. The earlier units with 2 lift cylinders(master & slave) have been known to raise platform uneven.

This post was edited by Tx Jim at 05:26:32 02/22/13.

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Texasmark1

02-22-2013 06:31:39
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 Re: JD 1209 in reply to Tx Jim, 02-22-2013 05:24:27  
The comment about the drive arm on the wobble box cannot be
overemphasized. It must be tight and when the manual says
torque to 150 ft-lbs, it means just that. Failure to comply results in
the bar breaking on the drive end and it doesn't take long, even
with a new bar.

BTDT more than once.

Mark



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