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rustandgrease 01-27-2013 16:58:48 74.99.172.82 Report to Moderator	Looking for help getting a rough date on this plow and also what the cleats on the lift wheel looked like. Thanks! [/img] [Reply]   [No Email]
rustandgrease 02-17-2013 13:50:59 74.99.172.82 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   LA in WI I only think to call you on a sunday, and I really don't like to bug people like that! I will try to call you this week... I might be interested in the coulter. Thanks!   [Reply]  [No Email]
LA in WI 02-20-2013 10:09:49 64.251.222.158 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 02-17-2013 13:50:59   rustandgrease, call me any evening, Sunday night ok too. LA in WI   [Reply]  [No Email]
LA in WI 02-01-2013 20:13:45 64.251.222.158 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   rustandgrease, I looked at my #4 plow today; the lift wheel has round bolt heads for traction, the heads are at least 1 inch diameter. Possibility they are original, don"t know, but sure look like it. Looking at your plow it looks like the rear wheel was just ripped off...I have a good one on my plow. And my coulter is in good shape, turns freely. Where do you live? I"m in Wisconsin. Maybe too far away for you to get my parts? I would not charge much for the parts you need. I took a couple pics today, but most of it is covered in the 10 inches of snow we got this week. I can send the pics by email to you...I don"t now how to post them here. You would have to call me and give me your email. I"m at 608-524-1452. LA in WI   [Reply]  [No Email]
rustandgrease 01-31-2013 15:48:13 74.99.172.82 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to NHpartsman, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see "5000 times harder" Hahahaha! I'm sure that's a pretty accurate figure! I want to try to use it this spring, so maybe I'll leave them out but have a handful of old bolts that size to throw in and try. Thanks for checking!   [Reply]  [No Email]
IHCPloughman 01-31-2013 15:12:52 208.53.195.38 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to Onedeere37, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I looked through my parts books and advertising literature and found no cleats for the land wheel. Cleats on the wide land wheel for sand or rice plowing yes, but not for the standard land wheel like you've got. Maybe running bolts through the holes was the intention. I'd leave it alone until you start plowing and realize you need something. A bolt or a cleat will make the plow 5000 times more difficult to roll on a trailer deck and in your garage.   [Reply]  [No Email]
IHCPloughman 01-29-2013 07:51:41 208.53.195.38 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to 55deere70, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see LA is mostly right. Here is a link to some good info and pics of an original plow: http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56326&st=10 http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56326&st=10 I think the springs would have been red. And, I have read that the Desert Sand Beige for a Case hood would be close to the cream on the wheels of the earlier IH plows. The off-white that LA mentions probably showed up on IH plows in the mid 50's when the 350-450 got white inserts on the hood, or later when the 460-560 came out. I have a 57-58 vintage #15 plow that has the off-white wheels.   [Reply]  [No Email]
LA in WI 01-29-2013 10:26:58 50.50.70.36 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to IHCPloughman, 01-29-2013 07:51:41   Plowman, The thoughts on whether the lifting springs are blue or red seem to be a real mystery. I agree some pics of original plows show red, and then some Wi. Historical Society info mentions blue. I painted them blue on my #8 and blue they stay. The IH 935 White is closest to what my memory tells me (dangerous assumption) they mostly looked like when I was young. I tried a couple other colors when I painted the wheels, but when I took them out in the sunlight they did not please me. The WHS once told me the IH archives for this color are lost and no real clue to follow. You planning to attend the World Plowing Championships in Alberta next summer? I'd like to go but it's over 1400 miles...one way! I want to go to Ontario for their contest NE of Sarnia in Sept. Fun to talk with those fellows. We are making plans for our April plowday, no date yet. Last yr had 45 acres, now we have 70. With over 50 old tractors it doesn't take long to turn it all over. LA in WI   [Reply]  [No Email]
IHCPloughman 01-30-2013 11:34:17 208.53.195.38 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to LA in WI, 01-29-2013 10:26:58   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see rustandgrease, I have never seen cleats for the land wheel in any parts book. I'll look a little deeper tonight. LA, I've been looking forward to the World Contest in Alberta for years, but now when I realize how much it will cost to go, I am questioning if I will make it. And, there is the National Contest in Ohio this year, Big Rock, and the IPM in Ontario is always a possibility. Don't know which event I will make. Keep me informed on your plow day.   [Reply]  [No Email]
rustandgrease 01-29-2013 13:59:27 74.99.172.82 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to LA in WI, 01-29-2013 10:26:58   Thank you very much for all the info! Those pictures helped too! I want to get it useable for this spring and eventually restore it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
rustandgrease 01-28-2013 16:49:20 74.99.172.82 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to Kirk-NJ, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The flat bars... were they just like 1/4" x 1" x wheel width and held with one bolt? Also, I too would like to know the color scheme. I have seen them done with variations of the red/white/blue, but what do you think is the correct way to paint it? Thanks!   [Reply]  [No Email]
LA in WI 01-30-2013 11:48:58 64.251.222.158 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-28-2013 16:49:20   rustandgrease, It"s been a couple years since I saw the flat bars on the lift wheel, but as I recall they were the width of the wheel and about 1"-1 1/2" wide. I do not think they were flat, but were bent U-shaped lengthwise so they had the 2 edges sticking up for more traction. But that shape could have been made by the plow owner thru the years....who knows what was done over so many years. I also have seen a wheel with bolt heads sticking up for traction, with a nut on both sides of the wheel to lock them tight. I think that was an owner design. I have a #4 on steel, but the left wheel axle is badly bent in; I think it might have been dropped off a truck as something violent had to happen to do that damage. I might take off the moldboard, the 2 handles, the hitch, the coulter, etc. and scrap the rest. LA in WI   [Reply]  [No Email]
rustandgrease 01-30-2013 16:47:51 74.99.172.82 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to LA in WI, 01-30-2013 11:48:58   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I don't need to make the cleats exact but I'd like to get close to original looking. I have also seen the bolt/nut design somewhere as well. I am sure that would work too. As you can see mine is missing the coulter, so if you or anyone has one complete from the frame clamp down... I'd be interested!   [Reply]  [No Email]
LA in WI 01-28-2013 21:11:57 50.50.70.36 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-28-2013 16:49:20   #4 and #8 IH plows were basically same paint schemes. Hitch and coulter arms are black. Axles, hubs, lifting springs, back of moldboards and lifting mechanism parts are IH blue. Frame and rest of parts are IH red. Wheels are IH white. IH #2150 red is used nowadays. IH blue not available, but NAPA has #53-3736A for correct match and other brands can match it also. Ford blue is not the same. IH 935 White is a cream color, close to same as on hoods of 560, 460, etc. This site might have what you need and I know that Carter and Grueneveld (sp?) also has paints for plows...see their website; C & G IH dealer. LA in WI   [Reply]  [No Email]
1buffy 01-28-2013 15:38:42 67.142.179.22 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   Would you all happen to know the orginal colors of this plow. I"m think blue beam with remainder red. But Im not really sure, Thanks.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Plowman 01-28-2013 04:53:22 216.201.49.122 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   I have plow manuals for sale for many brands. Thanks Steve (Plowman) Smith 419-618-0017   [Reply]  [No Email]
Plowman 01-27-2013 19:03:35 216.201.49.122 Report to Moderator	Re: Help w/ rough date of Little Wonder single bottom in reply to rustandgrease, 01-27-2013 16:58:48   Little wonder or # 3 plow built 1940 to 1955. They used flat bars for the clutch wheels. Plowman   [Reply]  [No Email]