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weld-on spoons for a JD rotary hoe?

rockyridgefarm

rockyridgefarm

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Hey all,

I was gonna try and buy a different hoe for this spring, but anything I look at has the same amount of wear as my 400. One sold on a sale in Juda yesterday for $325 and it would have needed plenty of wheels replaced for bearings and spoons. May as well fix mine up instead.

There's a company up in Canada that makes weld-on replacement spoons for rotary hoes. I talked with them last week and they're sending me more info and a sample spoon. The owner told me that once you get good at it, you can do 5 wheels an hour. The spoons cost $13 per wheel and they have a jig to ensure proper angle for $125. $3 for the bearing. The guy from Hoe-bits said his spoons are longer wearing and more aggressive than the factory spoons.

Entire new wheels cost $34 plus shipping from sloan express. There's about 50 wheels on a 15 foot hoe, but you only really need about 20 of them to be really good (4 of them right over the row)

Has anyone tried to do this?
 
Remind me... Are you organic farming, or have soil that crusts easily?

There are some old slightly used hoes out there, but you may have to some looking to find them.

There was a very slightly used 8 row narrow hoe in a barn a few miles from here but it was sold a couple years to someone who began organic farming.
 

I'm farming organic. When it comes to breaking crust, it doesn't matter how worn the spoons are. I'm depending on my hoe to do some blind cultivation for me.
 
DID THIS TO A JD HOE 20 YEARS AGO AND IT WORKED WELL. SAVED A LOT OF MONEY AND THE HOE WORKED BETTER THAN IT DID WHEN IT WAS NEW. I AM NOT A GREAT WELDER, BUT NEVER LOST ANY OF THE SPOONS. I HAVE A WHEEL TO MOUNT THE HOE WHEEL IN AND HOLD THE SPOONS IN PLACE WHILE YOU ARE WELDING THEM.
 

The 4010 didn't look TERRIBLE, but it was no gem. $1600 was the final bid. A lot of stuff was being bid back in and I dunno if this was, too. I should have bid, but really didn't have a good reason to buy it. Frankly, most of the stuff was rode hard and put up wet.

I didn't stick around for it, but a friend that was there told me later that the 4430 brought enough. $12000 for one with 13000 hours and did not go into park. It also had American Farmer tires that were chunking apart. Never saw tire that looked like that. It had to have been bad rubber.

The 7000 6 row interested me until I got 20 feet from it. First, it wasn't a True-Vee. Second, it clearly was a second planter that sat in the corner of the shed to be stripped for parts. Very few press wheels and closing wheels were left on it. Still brought $1700.
 
PREACHER MAN,

Do you want to sell that jig? Where are you located? If close to southwest Wisconsin, can I rent it?

Email is - rocky ridge 53813 at gmail dot com.

Thanks,

Bill
 
I am not sure if they have all gone to scrap around here or what. I have a 4 row JD that we bought new in about 1970 or so. In all the years that we used it, we rarely pulled it "forewards" My dad thought it was too agressive. So we turned it around to pull backwards. Guess it depends on the soil and the crop.

I still use mine, but there should be others settin around in the fence row.

Central MO. I'll keep my eyes open.

Gene
 

Hey Gene,

I was scratching my head on how you pull it backward, but then I realized you're talking about a pull-type. I am talking 3 point mounted 400 series models. They're pretty thick around here, but many are ready for the scrapper. There were two at that sale - one had huge balls of frozen sod on the bottoms of the tines. It had clearly sat outside in a fencerow for decades. I got there too late to see it sell, but it would have been hard to pay much for it, anyway.

I think my best bet is just to rebuild my wheels and run with it. What I was looking for is someone else who's done it.
 
Too agressive? I could not get enough agressiveness pulling two (2) of them together in forward use. Running double. By old Ford with angle iron teeth that replaced a Deere that done no good was a lot better hoe at doing the job. I had looked at those spoons 30+ years ago and went with the other hoe. Did not realize they still made them. In the meantime after I got rid of the Deere and had a McCormic that was no better, and the teeth on that showed no ware.
 

Thanks for the heads up, but I already saw those in Mankato and thought they were decent, but not great. It's also a 4 hour 20 minute ride for me. His price equals $750 for the entire 15 foot hoe.

I'm on my way to look at one the guy claims to have bought new and barely used for $600, but I'm still interested in the weld-on spoons. They're supposed to make the hoe more aggressive at lower speeds. I don't really like trying to stay in the seat at 10-12 mph...
 
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