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Re: wagon hoist questions

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cooney minnie

12-19-2012 10:07:25
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I have 3, all mine are midwest, but I'm guessing there are other manfacturers. Deere marketed one, but I'm not sure if they built it.

They may work side by side if identical and plumbed in a manner that they get equal flow. I have a Heil truck hoist that works in that manner.

DO NOT hook them to a tractor made much after, say, 1960. These were designed for 1950s hydraulic pumps, not nwer high pressure stuff. If you do, it may be their last trip up! Hooking the two together, and then hooking to a modern tractor will just blow up both of them.

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dboll

12-19-2012 10:18:36
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 Re: wagon hoist questions in reply to cooney minnie, 12-19-2012 10:07:25  
why? if the hoist is capable of lifting the load it doesn't matter what is powering it, the only way you could ever hurt it is to fully extend it and continue to apply pressure, again that rare commodity "common sense" comes into play, I have a 200bu box wih a hoist that I used to haul grain with and raised it with 70's vintage 2000psi hyd. systems with out a problem



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johnwayne360

12-19-2012 10:27:20
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 Re: wagon hoist questions in reply to dboll, 12-19-2012 10:18:36  
I had heard that you would blow out the cylinder with newer tractors. Apparently that only happens if you power it through the end of the stroke. So a little common sense could go a long way.



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johnwayne360

12-19-2012 10:28:26
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 Re: wagon hoist questions in reply to johnwayne360, 12-19-2012 10:27:20  
Im also trying to determine the weight rating of these cylinders. If anyone has any idea id appreciate it.



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Heat Houser

12-19-2012 10:35:31
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 Re: wagon hoist questions in reply to johnwayne360, 12-19-2012 10:28:26  
Weight rating depends on the column strength of the rod. Rod diameter and length of unsupported span determine column strenght. (in other words, bending strength) Long skinny rods bend easier than short fat. For a ball park, look at some comparable specs on a new cylinder that has the same bore, rod dia, and length of stroke.



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Tim(nj)

12-19-2012 10:31:31
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 Re: wagon hoist questions in reply to johnwayne360, 12-19-2012 10:28:26  
Most of the old ones I've seen were 10,000 lbs. I guess back in the 50s they didn't think you'd ever get that heavy with a load.



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