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Leroy

12-16-2012 05:46:57
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You are possibly thinking only use cylinders, that cylinder is one for the colector tractor market, am thinking for the 520-530 up to the 720-730 models. Might also be for the 50-60-70-80 tractors. I may be getting the black and green cylinders reversed tho and if I am then they would be for the 3010-3020 to 4010-4020 series and there are people just colecting those tractors as well and would only get used for a plow day but they still want a matching cylinder.

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rrlund

12-16-2012 07:06:34
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to Leroy, 12-16-2012 05:46:57  
Not gonna say things aren't different somewhere else,but it blows me away when some people claim what things bring in their areas.

Auction prices especially floor me. Claims that people buy things and take them to auctions and make money on them? Wow. Around here,selling something at an auction is like taking it to a pawn shop,you'll get your money quick,but don't expect much. I went to a sale just yesterday. An estate sale for a potato grower who passed away. I'll bet somewhere in the neighborhood of 30% or more of the stuff went right to the crusher,including the big potato harvester,the combine and heads,several of the trucks and even some tillage equipment. I watched a shop heater,like new,that sells for $879.99 sell for $140. There weren't any Deere cylinders on the wagon,but what they did have,they were holding up two and three at a time,selling the whole lot for $25-30,all on.

As far as collector stuff,there was a John Deere D,on rubber,older restoration,but started right up and ran like a dream,brought $1900. Guess I just live in a depressed area,or somebody else lives near a lot of foolish people.

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JD Seller

12-16-2012 08:29:25
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to rrlund, 12-16-2012 07:06:34  
rrlund: I if i remember correctly you live in upper New York. I am willing to bet that the farming community is shrinking fast in your area. That is making the value of the lesser stuff fall like a rock. Here in Iowa we still have a lot of smaller farmers. They put a floor under the cheaper used stuff. They are still users of the stuff and will buy it to use.

Plus you have had several tough years for farm income in your area too. You have not had good weather for a while if my memory is correct. This will really drop the price of stuff too.

There are scrappers at the sales here too but they usually only get the true junky stuff. Most of the equipment will bring much more than its weight as scrap.

The high price of newer equipment has kept a floor under the used stuff here. That disk you talked about would have broke 20K here easy. I saw a good IH 496 25 foot disk bring $22,500 just this week. The owner told me after the sale he had only gave $12,000 for it new twenty years ago. It was in like new shape and a new one like it is close to 35K now.

Equipment is kind of like land in that the location makes a big difference in values.

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rrlund

12-16-2012 08:50:29
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to JD Seller, 12-16-2012 08:29:25  
No,I'm in Central Michigan. Here's a link to the results of a recent local farm sale. Results are about typical. Popular auctioneer with a good following,honest guy,gets top dollar around here.



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Tim(nj)

12-16-2012 15:44:14
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to rrlund, 12-16-2012 08:50:29  
That's one of the area Wengers of Myerstown (PA) will bring stuff back from. They don't get everything, though.



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johnwayne360

12-16-2012 08:37:09
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to JD Seller, 12-16-2012 08:29:25  
JDseller..the auction was in worthington Ia. I think you are from the neighborhood?



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johnwayne360

12-16-2012 07:15:52
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to rrlund, 12-16-2012 07:06:34  
It seems here that any small auction has a jockey that buys the good stuff and brings it to a larger auction to try and make money. Must work because the same jockeys keep coming back. There are no bargains on auctions anymore because of this. Which is ok..but sometimes I feel for those that have smaller auctions, because they need the money and someone else is getting it. Case in point-I went to a small auction last fall. Guy had had cancer, was an estate sale. One year old landoll vt(disk) 30k list price brand new. Auctioneer only got starting bid of 6k. I bid it up to 10k, was all the money I had that day. Jockey bought it, put it on his own large sale two weeks later. I didnt make it to that auction, but I surely wished the widow could have gotten that money instead of the 10k she got..

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rrlund

12-16-2012 07:28:54
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to johnwayne360, 12-16-2012 07:15:52  
I'll tell you the truth,if I was going to retire,I wouldn't even have an auction. I'd pick out a few good pieces and advertise them,then the rest would go straight to the crusher. It's just 2 miles from me anyway. A guy just over 2 miles the other side of the crusher had an auction two and a half years ago. There were scrappers there from as far as 150 miles away. I'll bet at least 80% of his stuff got scrapped. He paid the commission,they bought the stuff,hauled it two miles and they still made money. Just doesn't seem right. I bought the grinder mixer and a parts tractor,the tractor would have no doubt gotten crushed if I hadn't bought it for parts,but there were two other things that I bought from scrappers after the sale. Had second thoughts about them after they sold,decided they were worth a little more to me to use than they were going to bring at the crusher.

There's one old guy here that has a used equipment lot who buys a few things,but he doesn't turn around and take them to another sale. He puts them in his yard and resells them. Only seems to deal in better quality stuff,but he buys the stuff so cheap that he can put a reasonable price on it and still makes a little money to supplement his retirement.

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Tim(nj)

12-16-2012 09:32:42
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 Re: black jd cylinders in reply to rrlund, 12-16-2012 07:28:54  
'Here' there's not a lot of good smaller machinery around anymore and there are still people who need it. SO, somebody buys something cheap out 'there', adds on the trucking and puts on their used machinery lot. When one goes to an auction locally, one bases the maximum bid price on what one would pay at the dealer. If the dealer bought a piece for $500 and has it for sale for $2500, a winning bid of $1800 for the same piece at auction is a deal. I know this makes the guys who live where said machine is worth $500 shake their heads.

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