charlie n

Well-known Member
I'm not usually not one to bi#!* BUT.I got this from CNH today.Packing kit for 335 steering cylinder.Ways about an ounce and made of neoprene and plastic. $89.47.I guess after 40 +years of buying OEM I shouldn't be surprised.

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Or a neighbor that bought a $1200.00 seal kit for a rear wheel assist motor on his 2388 combine. Our local CaseIH dealer is bad about gouging on parts. I started pricing around and will drive the extra hour in some cases to deny them the opportunity to break it off in my hind quarter.
 
They are making these parts "gold". That means they will carry them, but make them the price of gold.

I believe they are just making them profitable. It really does costs them money to keep these parts on the shelves for years.
 
Needing to replace the brake bands on my JD 450 dozer. A total of 4 half bands making two set, just like what is on older cars,over $2,000.00.
 
I needed a belt for my combine.John Deere wanted
$180.00. JayDee Enterprises want $38.00.Guess who I
bought it from?
 
how about NH wanting $1900.00 for a third gear shift fork on an 8600!, or wanting over $400.00 each for differential spider gears on same tractor but only needing $80.00 if they were for an 8670! same basic setup!
 
For years, I've noticed "trends" that business's go through. The current trend seems to be: "Grab all the cash that you can before the economy collapses". I've seen others on the Nightly Business News saying the same thing. Also rumors going around that "business people" are predicting that the economy will tank in the 3rd quarter of this year - and they all want to have lots of cash by then.

All my life I've heard people talk about repairing instead of buy new. I think that the margin between repairing and buying new is getting narrower.
 
Not sure I agree that the margin between repairing and new is narrower. It seems like the pricing on new is continuing to grow at a "healthy" pace.
 
One of the joys of business consolidation. Look at the legacy parts that
CNH and Agco both have to deal with. And since in most cases they've
driven the local dealer out of business they really aren't worried about
customer relations, after all what are you going to do buy a John Deere?
This type of behavior is what has me convinced one of the problems in
our country today is to many businesses run by business majors who have
very little to no understanding of the products and services they
deliver to customers that they also don't fully understand. Same for our
teachers, they spend more time in education classes than learning the
subjects they'll be teaching.

Also understand that with the current legal climate that exists in the
US they do have a vested interest in getting you to move away from older
equipment, it helps minimize potential liability if bad things happen.
That and our government keeps passing laws making new equipment cleaner
and safer but a lot more expensive (same thing they did to the auto
industry). They need to put additional pressure on you to upgrade before
Barry & the boys puts pressure on them or use the media to assault them
and seize them much like GM & Chrysler. That and someone has to pay for
the additional taxes and healthcare costs they will soon be paying.
Remember corporations don't pay taxes, they simply increase the prices
of their goods and services to their customers or reduce their costs to
maintain their margins.
 
It all depends on what you're working on. I won't replace my old 4430 with a new one because it will need a hydraulic pump soon, because a new tractor would not get enough hours on it to make it pay. However, I've junked hydraulic cylinders because there have been times I've been able to buy a new one for $15 more than the repair parts for the old one would have cost, plus my labor to disassemble and reassemble.
 
I needed a control valve for my Ferguson TO20. Since it is the same control valve as a Ford N series I checked with CNH to compare there price to Agco. CNH was $130.00 and Agco was $20.00. I guess I really don't have to tell you which one I went with...lol. I just couldn't believe there was that much of a price difference.
 
My shed currently has 5 Masseys' 5 Deere's a Kubota, 4 Fords, and 2 IH tractors sitting in it, all of various ages. They all need parts on occasion. Without a doubt, the Fords (New Holland) and the Kubota cause me the most anxiety when I gotta pay the bill.

The Deere's aren't cheap, but I never have to explain to my grandson what "NLA" means.

The Masseys are usually the cheapest parts, but not always.

IH, which may be as a result of the mediocre dealer I have to work with, always takes a few extra days. Cost is relatively close to Deere.

YMMV
 
Sorry, my finger hit the wrong key. Not over $2000.00, over $1000.00. Each (4) piece over $300.00 so a little under $1400.00 for a set of brake bands. They will be relined. The throttle cable also was over $300.00. As it stands right now, the throttle cables works w/PBblaster. Don’t buy JD unless you can fix them yourselves. Don't know how to edit???
 
And the cost of those parts are probably closer to the quarter laying beside them. I work for a large mfg company (electical and mechanical mfg), and I have seen cost vs. selling price and how that margin has went up exponentially over the past few years. Especially since the current owner took us over. The first move was raise prices we sell to distributors and the oem markets we sell to, all while taking drastic measures to lower cost (mostly by buying off shore, and mfg in foreign countries). I know on our products the margins are several hundred percent in many cases. I just priced a seal kit for a loader cylinder and looks like I will pay roughly $50 for it which some say is not bad, but consider their actual cost is less than $10. I could tear down the cylinder and take to a hydraulic shop 100 miles away and buy the parts piecemeal for about $10, but my fuel cost would put me right back in the $50 range these days. I guess we have to live with it.
 
steering cylinder on 383 mf sprung a leak priced a kit from mf dealer 78.00,carried the parts to a cylinder shop asked if he could match them up he never ask what they were for just stayed gone for 10 minutes came back with every piece but one wiper seal said he didn't know why he was out but could get it by morning,i'm thinking this is going to be costly but told him to figure up the bill including the one he would have to order after a couple minutes of looking up prices and adding up the bill he said 35.00 and some change i sure didn't expect that parts worked perfect,need a couple of o-rings had to get them from jd 5.00 apiece bought same ones from a hyd. supply for a 1.00 apiece
 
Had the same sort of trouble with a feed roller on the chopper last fall. CNH wanted $1700 for a new one. Found a company up in Pennsyltucky that makes new aftermarket rolls. Cost was $600 with shipping. Bearings came from local automotive parts store. CNH price $76 each, parts store was $9. Same bearing from Timken.
 
Needed a bearimg for the rotor on my JD flail stalk shredder. Deere wanted $132.00, Berry bearing wanted 72.00 I got one at local Farm store for 19.00!!!!!
 
This set of seals and bearings was $28.00 from Madisontractor.com.. I bought 4 of these to replace all on my Case 1840, to a tune of 112.00.

I had priced at local Case wanted $80.00 for 1 set(three only) which means I would have needed to buy 8 of these at $640.00. YA....NO!!!!! I got them within couple days and compared and installed. They were exactly what I had in it before and they fit perfectly.

My two cents.
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