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Hydralic tie baler ..whats the secret

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Edd in KY

10-27-2012 10:30:16
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I bought an old roll baler with a hydralic tie.

The arm moves across the bale (either way as the operator directs) then cuts and flips back to the start position.

I don't do many bales so my skill level is low but i really don't know what the best method is to get a decent tie.

Don't tell me to read the manual...i've done that.

Sometimes the end of the string gets caught by the feed-in material and is tying before I realize it. How do I prevent this from happening?

Do you start your tie by moving the arm to the middle then move back to the right side then back across the middle and on the the left edge before cutting the string?

How many revolutions make a good solid tie?

I am hoping for some simple practical advice from someone with experience, and good skills.

I don't think the brand of baler is real important to this process...or is it?

Thanks

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Edd in KY

10-28-2012 10:28:48
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 Re: Hydralic tie baler ..whats the secret in reply to Edd in KY, 10-27-2012 10:30:16  
Thanks to you all for the practical advice. It is manual hydraulic on an OMC 595 baler. Like a Gehl 1310 or 1760. I manually control the movement of the arm, but did not know where to start, how quickly to move the arm and how many wraps hold a bale properly. Again...thanks.



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Hogleg

10-27-2012 14:21:04
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 Re: Hydralic tie baler ..whats the secret in reply to Edd in KY, 10-27-2012 10:30:16  
On my Vermeer it works this way. Manual hydraulic tie.
I move all the way over, wait about 10 sec, then move 6-9 in, wait 5 sec, then 6-9 again, and again, again until I get to the end, then wait 10 sec then cut. Ends up getting about 4 revs on the ends and 2-3 revs each stop. Holds them well. Hey twine is cheap, so use enough. I used to go too fast and it ends up breaking when moving them back to the farm.

On the tying before starting, sharpen your knife. IF it does not cut well, the threads of the poor cut will catch and start feeding while you are baling..

John

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rrlund

10-27-2012 12:09:15
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 Re: Hydralic tie baler ..whats the secret in reply to Edd in KY, 10-27-2012 10:30:16  
Practice,is all I can say. I had two with hydraulic before stepping up to automatic. But yes,start in the middle,go to the far side,then back to the start side,let it wrap about one full revolution there,then return to the stop position and cut the string.
If it's catching prematurely,I don't know what kind of baler you have,but on my Gehls,there was a spring tension friction plate where it came out of the twine box to keep it from feeding out when you didn't want it to.

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Tx Jim

10-27-2012 11:34:46
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 Re: Hydralic tie baler ..whats the secret in reply to Don-Wi, 10-27-2012 10:30:16  
Edd

Actually brand may make a difference. Is your NEW TO YOU baler manual or automatic tie??? Does the baler have a control valve that can speed up or slow down the travel of the twine arm????????



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