Help with plowing

Mark Poss

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First time plowing today in almost 40 years with a little genious 2 bottom. Cant remember half of the stuff my dad taught me. I am setting the plow pretty deep for the first back to back passes I cant even remember what that is called I know it is the opposite of a dead furrow. But anyway no matter how deep I set the plow in soft ground I am plowing a foot deep in harder ground I am plowing four inches. Would putting weight on the beams of the plow help in controlling the depth? Sure wish my dad was still around. Thanks for any help, Mark.
 
Check your plow shares.They must have "suck".If they look like a 'sled runner',the plow will not plow right.It will do just the thing you are describeing.
 
Not much help, but a "back furrow" is what you get when the two adjoining furrows meet plowed together, makes a ridge across the field. A "dead furrow" is what you get when the two adjoining furrows are plowed apart - makes a groove in the field.
 
Sounds like you points are worn out. With out proper shape and drop to the points you can't plow well.

Crown furrow is the term I've always heard for 2 furrows coming together.
 
We always called it a back ridge around here, you might have a time finding new shares. Not sure if the little genius uses plow chief bottoms but if so they are getting hard to come by.
 
Always called a headland and that plow likely has the blacksmith sharpen type of shares that likely could be rebuilt and be good. If you could post pictures of the shares I could tell you how to go about rebuilding them with a welder and a cutting torch. May only require a bit of work or may require a complete rebuilding. Either way not too bad if you can weld.
 
Here are a couple of pictures if I get them posted on here. Thanks, Mark.
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does your plow look something like this one: its a IH (McCormick-Deering?) #8 Little Genius 2-14 trailer plow from the 1940s.
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might try this guy for new points, if you need them: good luck with the old plow

Duayne and Sandy Hansford, had their parts trailer at Portland In this week. Dwayne just got in some Plow Chief points that he is having made of malable steel. they look real good and are cheaper then any other prices I have heard for Plow chief points.

Now The Good stuff!!! Duayne also has wield on points for the old quick tach blacksmith shares. He had the mold made from a NOS point he had.These points are also malable steel. Unfortunately he doesn't have the wield on share edge to pattern replacements for those. But at least with a new point you can improve the plow's suck.

Dwayne is from Edinburg, In, and can be emailed at [email protected]
 
I looked around for some good pics of what the points are supposed to look like with no luck. All I can say is yours are completely worn out and worn down into the underlayer. The "nose" should be about an inch, inch and half longer, more squared and drop about 1/4-3/8" below the bottom line of rest of the plow. If I run across a picture I'll link to it.

Try Farmer Browns Plow Shop, BW Macknair or google plow points.
 
You can loosen the point up and slide a wire under the top of the point to get it to suck in better. Have done that when it is dry. Like was already said if it is real dry might not be able to plow it till it rains some.
 
A good welder could repair the broken of part on the top share and build up the worn away part on the bottom one but the best way is to get those replacement points and have them welded on. Once you would have them in hand then you could actually what is needed without buch explanation.
 
I am talking about after you unbolt them that you can take them in to your welding table or to the local welding shop. Nothing about them being welded to the plow. And I have rebuilt and also hammered out to sharpen them in a forge and anvile that I still have but health will not allow me to do it any more. You must be unfamiluar with any plow shares to even think about an answer like that.
 

This is what you said, "... but the best way is to get those replacement points [b:b2a50a2f75]and have them welded on[/b:b2a50a2f75]." If that's not what you meant, fine, but there's no need to get pissy about it.
 
(quoted from post at 05:10:54 10/16/12) You were saying the shares are welded to the plow, not bolted, not points to share.

No, I didn't. What I said exactly was "Those points bolt on, not weld on." in response to your confusing post. I didn't want this guy thinking the points needed to be welded on. Rebuilding the points by welding is another matter entirely. However your post may have lead a noobie to think the point should be welded on- "A good welder could repair the broken of part on the top share and build up the worn away part on the bottom one [b:d77d98b33a][color=red:d77d98b33a]but the best way is to get those replacement points and have them welded on[/color:d77d98b33a].[/b:d77d98b33a] Then you went on to take insult from my post and make childish remarks. You wrote what you wrote, it was confusing, I straightened it out, I meant no insult to you and my post was directed to anyone unfamiliar with the way these plows are put together which I think the OP qualifies as. End of story.
 
(quoted from post at 15:54:35 10/16/12)
(quoted from post at 05:10:54 10/16/12) You were saying the shares are welded to the plow, not bolted, not points to share.

No, I didn't. What I said exactly was "Those points bolt on, not weld on." in response to your confusing post. I didn't want this guy thinking the points needed to be welded on. Rebuilding the points by welding is another matter entirely. However your post may have lead a noobie to think the point should be welded on- "A good welder could repair the broken of part on the top share and build up the worn away part on the bottom one [b:c189189bee][color=red:c189189bee]but the best way is to get those replacement points and have them welded on[/color:c189189bee].[/b:c189189bee] Then you went on to take insult from my post and make childish remarks. You wrote what you wrote, it was confusing, I straightened it out, I meant no insult to you and my post was directed to anyone unfamiliar with the way these plows are put together which I think the OP qualifies as. End of story.

Uhhhhh, I think Leroy made perfect sense. Bret4207, your statement, "[i:c189189bee]Those points bolt on, not weld on[/i:c189189bee]." is based on the vernacular that incorrectly associates the word "point" with the entire "share". No need to jump on Leroy.
 
If you'll take the time to look IHC, you'll see I didn't jump on Leroy, Leroy jumped on me alleging I have no knowledge of any type of plow, ie- essentially calling me a retard. You'll also note that the terms point and share are used interchangeably throughout this thread. His post could be confusing to a noob and that's all I was fixing. So you and Leroy can go back to your mutual admiration society meeting and exchange underwear or whatever it is you do. I don't give a crap how old you are or how long you've been messing with tractors, you insult me youll get it right back.
 

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