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| David G
08-28-2012 18:55:49
205.215.206.18
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What kind of a job is it to convert 336 from 540 RPM to 1000 RPM, and are the used parts available? |
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| RodInNS
08-30-2012 06:10:21
216.118.158.123
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| Isn't your tractor convertable from 540 to 1000? Most were.... I'm not aware of any way to convert the baler (not that there wasn't a kit... I'm just not aware of any). I also think it a very poor idea to try and run a baler with a 1000 shaft at half engine speed. The engine is not going to be making enough power/torque at low speed to keep the baler turning a steady speed. It's just ASKING for trouble.Rod |
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| Tim(nj)
08-30-2012 12:19:43
67.237.2.242
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to RodInNS, 08-30-2012 06:10:21
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| On a deere, you have to remove a big snap ring and change the stub shaft to go from 540 to 1000 and back, and every time you do it, it leaks a puddle of oil. PITA if it has to be done on a daily basis. |
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| RodInNS
08-30-2012 13:10:56
216.118.158.123
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to Tim(nj), 08-30-2012 12:19:43
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| | It's no different than a Ford. Put the nose in a ditch, swap and run. No big deal. Rod |
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| low budget
08-29-2012 18:24:05
74.37.254.72
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| The owners manual for my 24T shows a 1000 rpm drive kit in the optional equipment section. It is nothing more than 2 different size sprockets connected with roller chain mounted in front of the bale case. I suppose you could fabricate your own. Personally I would try the stub adapter and reduced engine speed first. Or better yet buy another tractor and leave one hooked to each implement, after all this is a tractor website. |
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| DeltaRed
08-29-2012 11:10:36
67.6.225.104
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| Like Rufus said,IH has two shafts.Several neighbors use 1000 rpm shaft tractors.4520;4630;4650;1270Csae;IH 1486....)They simply run the tractor at 1/2 or less throttle..Thats kinda hard on the tractor as the governor 'pegs' at every stroke and things just dont function quite right.You need a contientious driver who can watch the rpm.its REAL easy to forget....A baler running 1000rpm will 'grenade' pretty quick!(ask my neighbor.) |
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| NY 986
08-29-2012 10:31:14
67.142.178.25
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| The online parts books do not confirm it but I always thought Deere offered a 1000 RPM drive for the 300 series balers. I would call known parts yards to see if one is there to be salvaged. Here in the East there is Fry's in PA. (570) 546-3968. Something like that if they had it they might make a heck of a deal on something there is not much demand for. I am assuming you are not wanting to change the tractor out for a reason. |
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| mazemeister
08-29-2012 18:08:34
24.187.98.163
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to NY 986, 08-29-2012 10:31:14
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| don't know about a 336 but my 224T parts book lists CHAIN CASE (1000 rpm Drive) as an option. looks like an oil filled box with #50-2 roller chain (double width) to drop the 1000 down to 540 |
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| ihman73
08-28-2012 20:56:43
67.43.125.34
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| Have used an adapter on the tractor and 1/2 of normal throttle speed in a pinch but the best policy is to use a tractor with a 540 pto. |
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| Loosehandle
08-28-2012 19:49:45
174.255.101.7
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| If you had a 2 to 1 gearbox laying around and some custom drivelines it could be done. Seen much wilder projects. Good luck! |
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| Roger in Iowa
08-28-2012 19:08:24
166.182.3.40
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-28-2012 18:55:49
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| | There are no parts available to change JD rectangular (square) balers to 1000 rpm. They are all 540, period. The power to operate a square baler do not exceed 75 hp and require even less. If you tighten down the slip clutch to the point of locking it, you will destroy the powerline. Sorry. |
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| UP Oliver
08-30-2012 05:21:07
68.70.134.91
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to Roger in Iowa, 08-28-2012 19:08:24
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| | I bale with a 53 hp tractor right now, but want to use my 88 hp Oliver when I get a few things fixed on it. Is that a bad idea? I'm talking about small squares, using a John Deere 336. Thanks. |
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| David G
08-29-2012 07:40:49
204.29.138.33
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to Roger in Iowa, 08-28-2012 19:08:24
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| Roger, that is the answer I am looking for. The MoCo is 1000 RPM and bailer is 540, just looking for easy way not to switch shafts on tractor. |
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| rufus80
08-29-2012 08:56:22
174.231.140.221
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-29-2012 07:40:49
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| Use an IH, both shafts already there:) |
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| David G
08-29-2012 10:21:59
204.29.138.33
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to rufus80, 08-29-2012 08:56:22
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| Have a 4020, have to park tractor down a hill and change shafts. |
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| Tim(nj)
08-29-2012 11:44:49
67.237.2.242
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Re: JD336 1000 RPM in reply to David G, 08-29-2012 10:21:59
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| do a search for Hub City speed increaser. Lets you run 1000 rpm machine with 540 pto. Also have one that goes 1000 rpm tractor to 540 machine, but either are $$$$, and they mess up hitch geometry. |
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