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steve in wi 07-27-2012 12:36:33 166.249.130.31 Report to Moderator	I,am looking at a deutz all is sm60rc disc mower,does anyone know who made it for them.also has any one every used one and how they liked it. Also I came across a Kuhn fc4000rg discbine,that needs work, it only 3 gs so I am assuming it needs work,question has anyone used a Kuhn 4000 and will a 706 diesel handle that machine.if anyone has any pros or cons on either machine I would like to hear them so I have something to ask when i go look at theses machines.thanks Steve [Reply]   [No Email]
steve in wi 07-27-2012 12:44:57 166.249.130.31 Report to Moderator	Re: kuhn fc4000rg or deutz allis sm60rc in reply to steve in wi, 07-27-2012 12:36:33   I forgot the da is 1998 model,its cheap,but maybe theirs a reason.   [Reply]  [No Email]
KEH 07-27-2012 15:10:13 209.213.31.66 Report to Moderator	Re: kuhn fc4000rg or deutz allis sm60rc in reply to steve in wi, 07-27-2012 12:44:57   A few years ago i did some work for a Kuhn dealer assembling disc MCs, but I don't remember the model numbers. They were well built machines, my immediate opinion which well could be wrong was that they were too complicated. Is the one you are looking a roller conditioner or does it have impellers? The dealer had a roller one in the shop that had a bracket fail on the RH side of one of the rolls. It worked up and down in a slot to adjust as the volume of hay changed and failed because it was cast iron instead of steel fabrication or a steel forging, so I would check that. Another one came in with a bad cutterbar assembly because the owner had filled the cutterbar too full of oil. It developed too much pressure and ruined gears. It was cheaper to buy a new cutterbar than to rebuild it. The factory rep said disc mowers lasted better a little low on oil rather than overfilled. Basically, what you should do is hear the thing run, preferrably see it cut hay but I know that's probably impossible. If a Kuhn dealer has it you can ask more about its history. Oh, there's a couple of gear boxes on the LH side of the machine, under the sheet metal. You can check them for leaks, low oil, excessive noise. There's supposed to be 2 wheel blocks made of galvanized steel carried in brackets on the back of the machine. Probably gone by now. I don't know if the 706 would pull it or not. I think the dealer said a 10 footer needed 70 hp to handle it, but I could be wrong. Some of those machines needed 2 sets of remotes, one to raise and lower the cutterbar, the other to swing the tongue over. KEH   [Reply]  [No Email]