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Graham Hoeme Plow

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cumminspuller

02-24-2012 21:05:37
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I have never seen a lot of these around me or never noticed them anyways. I found one a couple of weeks ago on a bussiness trip. I was about a 7ft. wide and I think a 7 shank model. Pull type with no cylinder. No welds anywhere that I could see. One original tire and a worn out car tire. Paint is completely gone. What is something like this worth? I remembered seeing a few posts on here a couple of months ago from Neb. I think but like I said I've never seen any around here (southern mid. TN) I've got to call the guy back and get a price from him on it and some other stuff. Just don't know what a fair price is for this piece. Thanks for any input.
Chris

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jackinok

02-27-2012 06:41:39
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
before you buy it to use,be aware that 7 shank would take at lot of tractor to pull it! around here where they were first made they were drug mostly by d8 or 9 cats. basicaly its nothing more than a subsoiler.And they just like a subsoiler,have mixed results in different areas. If tennessee has weather like it did when i lived there years ago it probably would have limited effect.They dont do much in areas with high or even adequate rainfall.Where they work best is in areas with limited rainfall,to allow all the rain possible to soak into the subsoil.They dont work in deep sand,clay tends to close right back up.The advantages of subsoiling were studied way back in the 1800s,and the conclusions were the same.If you were buying it just to have,their price depends entirely on the area.here if seen several sell for scrap price,in western okla and texas panhandle where the were developed,they bring 3-500 in good condition.They were not any really great breakthrough in farming,like i say subsoiling had been done way back,but the shape of the tines are what made them easier to pull somewhat so folks could run them with a large tractor instead of hiring a dozer for the work.In fact the story goes that hoeme got the idea when he pulled a non running dozer with the rippers down accross his field to his shop for repair.The grass grew so much better where the rippers had been dragged he simply took the idea and ran with it.As you mention an original hoeme will look almost home made, because they were built one at a time by hand.

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cumminspuller

02-28-2012 05:12:38
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to jackinok, 02-27-2012 06:41:39  
What I have seen and heard about how they were used up until now was as a chisel plow/ field cultivator. I had not seen or heard of anyone using them as a ripper(sub soiler). If that was the case then yes I definantly see where a 7 shank would require a lot more horses to pull it.



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awhtx

02-26-2012 11:41:22
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
Graham Hoeme was (is?) located in Amarillo, TX which is a long ways from anywhere.



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Leroy

02-26-2012 07:26:48
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
Have seen very few, they were not used in my area. But from what I have seen a 7' model would bring $200 for scrap now, you do not want to offer less than the scrap man will give or you will not get a chance to raise your offer because it will be gone before you can raise your offer.



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cumminspuller

02-26-2012 19:20:13
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to Leroy, 02-26-2012 07:26:48  
I'd like to get it for less than that but even at $200 I think its still worth that and maybe a little more.



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cumminspuller

02-26-2012 07:22:20
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
Thanks guys for the input. I don't know why but I just liked the thing when I saw it. It is an older model with the I-beam frame. As of now it would be pulled with a 720 or 730 gas Deere.



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David from Kansas

02-25-2012 19:19:48
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
I think about every farm around here had one in the 1940-1960 era, except ours. They still show up on quite a few farm auctions around here. One sold today, was a later model with the square box beams (early ones had I-beams) and was factory equipped with hydraulic lift. With a cylinder and sweeps and points, it brought about $150. Was about a 12 foot. I bought one with levers, tires held air, pretty straight, very old model, about 3 years ago for $35. Had seen them sell for even less than that but that was before scrap prices got high.

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JMOR

02-25-2012 16:32:46
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to IHMANKY, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeYou can start at a hundred if you like, but I have a real nice one with hydraulic cylinder and had to remove two shanks to make it not kill my SMTA and I wouldn't take $500 for it.



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DICK STOYELL

02-25-2012 14:38:40
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 Re: Graham Home in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
HELLO;I am from New York state and I have a grahamhome 7 shank chisel plow.John (last answer) is correct. I paid about 500.oo for mine several years ago and spent at least1000.00 more on it. You can always go up with an offer. As far as I know Grahamhome is still in business however their parts are very expensive and I rebuilt mine from a short line retailer. Mine does not have hyd.cyl as such,the axle supports telescope to raise and lower it.DICK

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MtMan

02-25-2012 10:05:32
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
There used to be a lot of this plows in my area of Pa. Probaly none used anymore. So I would say maybe $100.00 to $200.00 would be about right. I remember it takes at least 10 horsepower for each shank or at least 70 horsepower for a 7 shank, depending on your soil type.



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gtractorfan

02-25-2012 15:56:57
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to MtMan, 02-25-2012 10:05:32  
I think a 70 horse tractor on an old 7 shank one could give it a pretty good ride. Back in the days when these were widely used a Farmall M or equivilent was a big tractor and commonly used for this. Of course it depends on how deep you're digging too.



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John A.

02-24-2012 21:51:43
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 Re: Graham Hoeme Plow in reply to cumminspuller, 02-24-2012 21:05:37  
cumminspuller, I have a 13 shank drag type G.H. Low clearance (Wheatland) style Double levers on each side. I had to give $100 about 8 yrs ago and haul it 500 miles home. I had to to weld up the rims where they had rusted out. I just put old front 16in. tractor tires on it to get it mobile. I use it with 12 in sweeps as a field conditioner.
I would think that $100 to $250 should take it home. Start VERY Low it is always easier to go up, that come down!!! Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.

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