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Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad?

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sixtyninegmc

08-25-2011 19:11:18
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Might be going to look at some implements for sale about 50 miles from us, and the have a hesston 4590 inline small square baler for sale. Not what we are going to look at, per say, but we do want a backup to our IH 430, as it has not been the most reliable. I have never been around inline balers before, wouldn`t normally look for one but they have one for what seems to be a reasonable price. What are the pros and cons? Can you still get parts for the hesston? And I don`t think any increase in volume would do us any good, because our fields are so rough we cant go any faster than the 430 will pickup anyway.

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sixtyninegmc

08-28-2011 01:17:22
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 19:11:18  
Well, everything was in better shape than I expected, usually a reasonable price around here means hammered equipment. The baler had been well maintained and kept clean, it was is spare to his other 4590 that has never failed for him, so he decided to sell the spare. So I came home the proud new owner of an inline baler, a case 4 bottom rollover plow, and a JD 5 shank ripper. I`m gonna need a bigger yard....

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WyoDave

08-26-2011 12:40:45
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 19:11:18  
If it looks good, the price is right, and you can justify spending the money, then go for it. Parts will be easier to come by then for your 430 assuming you have a decent Agco/Hesston dealer. The inline design is supposed to be better at making consistent bales due to the hay being fed evenly. That's Hesston's marketing point at least. I'll bet if you get it, your 430 will become your "backup" rig awful quick. As for the baler debate, I wouldn't put much faith into anything that is being said. If you're not going to bale over 10,000 bales a year, it really doesn't matter which brand you get, they'll all do the job
David

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sixtyninegmc

08-25-2011 20:54:33
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 19:11:18  
So do the the inlines do okay when you can`t keep them full? Our 430 likes to be stuffed full all the time, if you run it in thin windrows, or slow, it gives us banana bales.



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Tim(nj)

08-26-2011 10:52:42
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 20:54:33  
Since they feed the chamber with a stuffer fork from straight on, light windrows don't affect the bale shape.



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sixtyninegmc

08-26-2011 12:36:13
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to Tim(nj), 08-26-2011 10:52:42  
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Thanks Tim, that was my biggest concern. It is priced lower than a lot of older new hollands around here, and cheaper than some worn out deeres.... I will look it over to see if it has been hammered, I think it might be so cheap because there are so few of them around up here, people aren`t sure about them.

Thanks,
Josh



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torwood9

08-25-2011 20:12:44
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 19:11:18  
We loved our Hesston inline baler. Bought it brand new, and it had a knotter issue the first year. After that, it was full proof, never missed a knot, baled quick, easy to work on, and parts were available. Wish my dad hadn't sold it at the auction.



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Retired Farmer

08-25-2011 20:10:57
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 19:11:18  
You want reliability and production, you better look to John Deere. My boss has a Case which is the same thing and if you were here I would give it to you and help you load it just to get rid of it. Yes, you can still get parts for it, expensive parts. No, it is not a production machine. We do custom haying. We pull it behind a Case 2090 and if somebody don't leave the hitch arms down they tear up the tongue and driveline cover, Pto shaft wears excessively, won't make the same length bale twice to save it's soul, problems with knotter brake breaking it's mounting bolts and bending the plate it is attached to, shaft breaks off about once a year where the driveline goes into the flywheel clutch, knives don't stay sharp very long, I could go on but I have had a long day. In a word, you couldn't give me one.

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randallnMo

08-26-2011 10:04:33
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to Retired Farmer, 08-25-2011 20:10:57  
Retired farmer.....you've been bitchin' bout this baler all summer! I suspect you've "fixed it" one too many times. My Hesston in-line baler has been absolutely bullet proof....and I've had it about 10 years. In fact, since I"ve owned it (bought it used) it has only missed three bales........and that was because I forgot to add twine to the darned thing! Call BS if you want, but that's the truth "about mine".

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Jim Phelps

08-26-2011 01:17:23
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to Retired Farmer, 08-25-2011 20:10:57  
Well I will trade you our JD for your bosses Hesston, going to get rid of it this winter and look for something more reliable.



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RodInNS

08-25-2011 21:28:11
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to Retired Farmer, 08-25-2011 20:10:57  
I could say many of the same things about the Deere 327 i have... Particularly about bale length. I'm somewhat at a loss to explain that one.

My own opinion... the Hesston inline design is about as simple and reliable as they come. There's fewer moving parts in the feeder. It's simple.
Capacity is a function of the feed opening of which there are many variants... Hesston, Deere, NH and others all make small and large capacity balers.

I'd suggest that if this one looks good and the price is right, buy it.
Ironically it has the exact same knotter design as the Deere and NH balers... so it would be hard to condemn the knotter.

Rod

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Tim(nj)

08-25-2011 20:18:12
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to Retired Farmer, 08-25-2011 20:10:57  
Really? I've had a Hesston inline for 10 years and never had problems. Makes consistent, brick-like bales. Sounds like it's a used-up, improperly operated, ill-maintained machine.



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Brendon-KS

08-25-2011 19:55:11
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to sixtyninegmc, 08-25-2011 19:11:18  
Parts will be no problem at all since essentially the same machine is still in production and they haven't changed much over the years. I believe the current model is the Massey Ferguson 1839. The same baler was also sold by CaseIH as the 8545 up until 2001 or thereabouts.

In-line balers are known for their ability to make straight-sided bales since the hay feeds in the bottom.



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retired farmer

08-25-2011 20:19:25
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to Brendon-KS, 08-25-2011 19:55:11  
I could argue the point about the way the thing feeds. It is not a good design. I have used John Deere balers that will bale circles around an inline and make a better tighter bale.



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Vernon in Ks

08-26-2011 07:52:42
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to retired farmer, 08-25-2011 20:19:25  
I agree. I use a JD 348 and when they built it all the others couldn"t hold a candle.



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Tim(nj)

08-25-2011 20:20:05
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 Re: Hesston 4590 baler, good or bad? in reply to retired farmer, 08-25-2011 20:19:25  
I call BS.



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