Yesterday's Tractor Co. Low Prices, Parts Ship Fast!
Click Here or call 800-853-2651 
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Tractor Manuals
Tractor Parts
Classified Ads
Photo Ads

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
TractorLinks.com
Ford 8N/9N Club
Today's Tractors
Garden Tractors
Classic Trucks
Kountry Life
Enter your email address to receive our newsletter!

subscribe
unsubscribe
  
Discussion Forum

Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker?

Author  [Modern View]
Steve II

05-28-2011 12:23:50
69.128.32.101



Report to Moderator

I am looking at purchasing a New Idea 324 two-row corn picker with the eight-roll husking bed. I would like to know if any of you gentlemen have an idea as to the amount of horsepower necessary to operate this unit and tow a wagon. I have a 1950 Farmall M that my grandfather used the mounted 2-row picker on, but want to make sure that it isn't overwhelmed by the 324 and a 200-250 bushel wagon in tow. Any thoughts appreciated! Enjoy the holiday weekend. Steve II

[Reply]   [No Email]
Steve II

05-29-2011 20:31:42
69.128.32.101



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
Gentlemen, Many thanks to everyone for their reply. It is very interesting to read the individual stories behind each of your opinions. I was told by my grandfather many years ago that he had the engine in the M rebuilt to the same specs as a Super M so it could more easily handle the mounted picker and a 300 bushel wagon on the hills and wet ground. I have heard some old-timers around here refer to that particular engine upgrade as a "powerpack conversion", but have never seen that term used anywhere else. Since I"m picking 5 acres on fairly level ground the old girl might grunt a little but should be OK based on what I see here. Again, many thanks to all and enjoy the holiday. Steve II

[Reply]  [No Email]
Leroy

06-04-2011 10:14:37
69.88.223.179



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-29-2011 20:31:42  
I can't imagine a 2 or 300 bu bed behind a picker, the normal in a hopper bed at that time was a 125 bu rated bed that would hold 60 bu of ear corn and the later Kill Bros 300 series bed was as tall as you could use with a picker and it was rated at 165 bu so it would be about 100 bu of ear corn.



[Reply]  [No Email]
paul

05-29-2011 20:36:45
66.44.133.21



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-29-2011 20:31:42  
5 acres, sounds like it will work well for you. ;)

--->Paul



[Reply]  [No Email]
Farmallb

05-29-2011 11:18:28
67.142.178.20



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
Dad picked for several years with a 48 H Farmall and #224 IHC picker, and a 26bu Iron wheeled wagon. Never had any problem unless it was muddy. Then he had problems, but he picked anyways. He had an M, But I dont remember if he used it on the picker later or not.



[Reply]  [No Email]
dboll

05-29-2011 09:08:40
64.61.211.211



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
I can remember my grandpa pulling a 6A NI with an M in 80-100bu corn at 20,000 pop. years ago. We used an 830 case, 1800 Oliver or 970 case. I wouldn't want anything smaller than an 830 on a picker. You might get by if it isn't muddy, glad I don't have to pick with an M.



[Reply]  [No Email]
Deere Scotty

05-28-2011 22:24:42
68.57.255.70



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
Same as the "Flying Belgian" A John Deere 60 with NI 324 wide row, & 8 row bed. Just enough HP to do it right; But if in wet conditions a bigger tractor is always better. I like the pulltypes better because the noise is behind you, & in most cases the heavy dust, & flying trash are as well!

Scotty



[Reply]  [No Email]
flying belgian

05-28-2011 19:58:53
98.132.233.132



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
We pulled a 324 with a jd-60. About 44 horse. Gave it quite a load. Had 200 bushel flair boxes. I would not want any less hp.



[Reply]  [No Email]
Ken Sweet

05-28-2011 16:58:50
64.130.141.5



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
I pulled a picker like that for several years doing custom picking. I was using a 3020 JD and it had all it wanted going up hills with almost full gravity box. Ken Sweet



[Reply]  [No Email]
Harold H

05-28-2011 16:57:50
12.23.230.162



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
Your Farmall M should handle it fine.

Harold H



[Reply]  [No Email]
paul

05-28-2011 13:45:46
76.77.197.242



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
Used to have a mounted 2 row picker on an F-20, pulled 100bu barge boxes. Aside from the poor gear selection, it worked. Dad & uncle picked for decades with that. They were planting about 20,000population and going for 100-120 bu yields.

Used a pull type NI 6A with an IHC 300 tractor - about 35 hp - and it worked fine with the same 100bu barge boxes. The 300 has 10 forward speeds with the TA, nice to match speed to conditions! And of course the independent pto, world of difference with an independent pto!

Got a NI 300 2 row picker, and some 200bu gravity boxes. The 300 pulled it, but it was a struggle. Ran out of hp when the wagons started getting full or on hills, had to drive a little slower than I could have. Wet conditions was very tough to pull all those different wheels on the ground through even moderate damp hill conditions. Was planting 30,000 population and going for 140bu yields. Could sure tell the harder pull with the thicker populations.

Got a 324, and didn"t try it with the 300. Did try it with the Oliver S77, and had to drive very slow, 1st or 2nd gear, to keep moving - at least it has independent pto so was useable. Just not enough oomph. Happy with a large Ford 5000 or 7700 on the picker - 60 or 85 hp. Works well, can drive right along. Using 34,000 populations, hoping for over 150bu corn, spots of 200 can be in there now.

This is on southern MN clay wet soils, rolling hills.

You can make it work for fun on a few acres with an M. But if you have high yield corn, high population planting, and want to accomplish a lot in a day, the M is gonna be a little small, and lack of live pto will really be miserable.

Just my experiences over the decades. You are on that borderline....

--->Paul

[Reply]  [No Email]
fixerupper

05-28-2011 12:39:27
174.253.140.127



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
Dad used to pull a minneapolis two row with a jd A all through the fifties with a 6X10 barge wagon in tow without any problems. Jim



[Reply]  [No Email]
rrlund

05-28-2011 12:35:46
207.241.137.116



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to Steve II, 05-28-2011 12:23:50  
No problem at all. An H would handle it if you weren't pulling wagons up and down big hills.



[Reply]  [No Email]
RickB

05-28-2011 14:38:10
69.195.50.204



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to rrlund, 05-28-2011 12:35:46  
A corn picker without a wagon behind it isn't very useful. An H has its hands full with a loaded 250 bu wagon behind it, let alone a 4000lb picker with its power demands. An M would probably get along OK, although I wouldn't want to feed it.



[Reply]  [No Email]
Super H Mike

05-29-2011 08:33:44
76.164.147.87



Report to Moderator
 Re: Horsepower needed for 2-row corn picker? in reply to RickB, 05-28-2011 14:38:10  
I have used an H on a 324 and a gravity box behind with out too much trouble. An M will be just fine, my dad always picked with a New Idea 2 row and an M. The horsepower won t be a problem. I will say though that there were times with the H that you wished for a heavier tractor, like turning on the downward part of a slope, the wagon and picker could push the rear wheels of the tractor and make a jack - knife seem possible. Bottom line and H or M will do it with smaller wagons and dry fields.That picker is a heavy machine.

[Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Return to Forum]   [Add a Reply]

Hop to:
TRACTOR   PARTS TRACTOR   MANUALS
Same-Day Shipping! Most of our stocked parts ship the same day you order (M-F).  Expedited shipping available, just call!  Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors.  Compare our super low shipping rates!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  We are a Company you can trust and have generous return policies!   Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ More Info ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2014 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters