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Case IH 8420 Round Baler

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Randy2

01-17-2011 14:31:02
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I'm look into buying a round baler and came upon this 8420. I have no idea what to look for as far as problem areas, and it says it has hydrolic tie. Is this good? Also how do they knot? May sound like stupid qustions but we have always square baled. Thanks




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NEBeef

01-20-2011 06:34:17
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
We've got an 8420 that we bought new many moons ago and have we've used for years. Biggest problems are 1. the pickup is too narrow - it's between the tires instead of in front of it. It'll usually take all the hay you can stuff into it no problem, but you miss part of any good sized windrow. 2. the manual twine mechanism would never cut the twine for me until I did a little re engineering. The hydraulic wrap is supposed to be much better. It doesn't "tie" just leaves loose ends, btw. 3. Loves first cutting, doesn't work that well baling up third cutting. Other than that, it's been a pretty trouble free...

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kballein

01-17-2011 19:57:01
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
I have a Hesston 530 and it has been a great baler for me. I bale about 40 acres per year. I like the small bales, easy to handle. I sell some to small operations where the small bale is very handy. Easy to load and move. My 530 makes fairly tight bales. I have an electric tie, works great.



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Ron-MO

01-17-2011 17:54:21
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
Oh, and bale size is 39"x52" if memory serves me correctly. Pretty hard to keep a 39" pickup on a windrow without losing hay, or at least it was for me.



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Ron-MO

01-17-2011 17:48:53
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
Those are same as Hesston 530 baler I believe. I bought one of the Hesston 530's a couple years ago, baled part of one season, and by the time I had baled 40 bales, I was ready to sell it. I cannot complain about any particular problems with it, probably because I did not keep long enough to have problems with it. I had been baling with a New Holland 850 and would bale as fast as I could drive and never plug. The Hesston was just the opposite, and by the time I had baled 40 bales in 90 + degree heat/humidity, I had been laying on my back twice unplugging it. Also, I did not like the fact I was constantly tying, as it does not take much hay to fill the bales. Also the bales are so light they are hard to get a spike in without pushing them all over the field. I actually bought the Hesston to replace my old 850, but I sold the Hesston, and put the NH back in the barn, and went back to the old chain baler. I think they are a good little baler, but I bought the baler to bale about 60 acres per year, and to sell the bales, but had a very hard time selling the bales. Just my experience with one.

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DiyDave

01-17-2011 16:39:24
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
Check for bent pickup guards, bars, missing or not aligned teeth. Also would be a good idea to check reel bearings with a infra red thermometer, while its running. Barring that, look for burnt paint. My Hesston 5530 is the same baler, and it's had a bad bearing since I got it, but I keep spraying oil into it, and it has run for years like that. Also, check the belts for splits or ripped lace connections. New set is about $550, last time I bought one. Wish I had that HYD tie feature on mine. I do have an extra set of bale ejector ramps, for the back, if you want to bale, and eject bales, without backing up. Email me if you are interested. I am in MD, just to let you know if shipping is feasible. How much are they asking for the baler?

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Randy2

01-18-2011 14:35:56
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to DiyDave, 01-17-2011 16:39:24  
5900 and im in pa thanks for all the info



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DiyDave

01-20-2011 05:31:29
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-18-2011 14:35:56  
Randy, that's what I paid for mine 5-7 years ago. Ain't Marshall Equipment, is it? Anyway, as a trend, I would guess at 4500-5000, tops, at auction, unless its extra special nice!



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Randy2

01-17-2011 15:19:18
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
a friend told me to look for a hydrolic tensioner. Did these have that? also what size bale does it make 4x6? 550 lbs?



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DiyDave

01-17-2011 16:42:41
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 15:19:18  
Forgot this in the other post. Bale size is 40" wide, up to 5' in diameter. Weight, 350 lbs to maybe 650 lbs, about equal to 10-12 square bales.



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timberjack

01-17-2011 15:03:59
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 Re: Case IH 8420 Round Baler in reply to Randy2, 01-17-2011 14:31:02  
We have one here, good little baler. Fairly simple to operate and maintain. Only problem is they can't take much of a windrow. 9' mower is all it wants. Bales are fairly soft, not as tight as a New Holland or others. Works good for me because my loader tractor is a 340 IH and I can roll the bales down the barn with not to much effort. Hydraulic tie would be nice, ours works by pulling a rope. They don't actually tie a knot, just wraps the bale with twine.

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