Old New Holland Baler

sdc eastern Iowa · Dec 29, 2010

Has anybody seen or remember the number of those old vertical plunger, Wisconsin powered balers? You would bale all day and couldn't get the sound of that motor out of your head at night. A hand crank start and more times than not the crank would stay on the engine and everybody dove for cover. That was 40 plus years ago and about now the last crank handle should be falling out of orbit. For some odd reason I'd like to find and restore one of those monsters.

Roger in Iowa · Dec 29, 2010

Yep, neighbor had one of those. The overhead plunger was called a "chinaman". If the engine stalled during baling it was about impossible to restart unless you waited for it to cool down. Neighbor made an adaptor for an electric drill (1/2") to take the place of the crank handle. Had to drive to the house for electricity but would restart a hot engine. Did not throw the crank that way!

I have the engine from that baler but have not started it for awhile. Always remember the sound.

oliver fan · Dec 29, 2010

Did the baler have a left side pick up or a right side pickup? The left hand models were the model 73 and 76. The right hand twine tie model was a 77 or a super 77. The wire tie models were the 87 and super 87. I was a little kid the first time I was on a flat rack behind a super 77 PTO model. When you weigh as much as a bale, you learn real fast what work is. I don't miss it one bit.

joninmo · Dec 29, 2010

I believe that is the 77 or Super 77. Also called the "horse head" where I grew up.

msb · Dec 29, 2010

P-a-a-ad---n,P-a-a-ad---n P-a-a-ad---N. Sound about right. Dad had one on a Case Slicer and I ran a New Holland top stomper,left hand pick up when in high school.

sdc eastern Iowa · Dec 29, 2010

Right hand, And I can see why it was called a horse head. I ran it when we got our brand new 1850. Proud as hell. I was in low side, and never knew that the tractor free wheeled in low. Plugged it TIGHT.... Wasn't me that put a grade 8 in for a shear bolt.

Fordfarmer · Dec 29, 2010

My Grandpa had one, but traded it off on a Super 68 before I was born. Pulled it with a Super H or 300 Farmall.

Ron-MO · Dec 29, 2010

Not my baler, but sounds like this might be it....and I can see why it was called a horsehead.

showcrop · Dec 29, 2010

A farm nearby had one, probably in the early sixties. We could hear it running a half mile away, probably about 50 strokes per minute. It broke down one day with about 15 acres yet to bale. Two neighboring guys came to help with their more modern balers, and once the big old NH was working again it was kinda funny to see the two modern ones going about three times faster.

1206SWMO · Dec 29, 2010

I have several balers in my collection with Wisconsin V-4 engines.

77 New Holland
114W John Deere-runs
Case NCM-hand tie
MM Bale-O-Matic-3rd one ever built
Long from early 1950's

I used to help a neighbor that had a left hand feed 76 NH and then he got a Super 77 NH. The 77 NH's were very popular in this area.

Superpicker · Dec 29, 2010

This is not a New Holland or Wisconsin powered, but it does have a vertical plunger. New Idea W-6 (wire)built in 1953. New Idea also made a twin to it, the T-6.

Vito · Dec 30, 2010

There was one listed in the classified section by Scott in Halifax,PA.I had pictures of it and it looked like a good restoration candidate.
Hope this helps

Vito

chuck41 · Dec 30, 2010

My dad and uncles sold the 76 and 77 models new at the fam.dealership. True-they would not start
when hot. The reason mostly was the chaff was to
be cleaned daily out of the tin covering the heads. The mechanics would go on a service call
and clean a bushel (not quite!) of chaff. Then
they would run cooler and start when hot. Until
they "chaffed up" again.
Chuck

chuck41 · Dec 30, 2010

Oh, I do have a few used manuals for 77 or s-77 if needed. Chuck

NEKS · Dec 30, 2010

In the late 40's neighbor had a Case baler with a V-4. It worked the sh.t out of it and didn't bale any hay either. Took a half hour out to eat dinner than neighbor would crank and cuss for a half hour to get it started again.

oleclint · Dec 30, 2010

Oliver Fan has the models correct. I remember the sounds of the old 76 very well. Seems to me that when the needles " went in " , the top plunger was held up & out of the chamber . Lots of noise when that cycle came around.
One guy pulled his 76 with a little old Jeep, never could figure out why he didn have a wreck with it .
Does this " date " me or not. clint

chuck41 · Dec 30, 2010

Also was a 75 (LH) and an 80 wiretie. Chuck

LarryT · Dec 30, 2010

I can still remember bouncing down the windrow at 3 in the morning trying to get the alfalfa baled up before the dew was to heave but had enough to keep the leaves on. We had a Case NCM. Sis on one side, me on the other, Dad on the old H and if I n4ever see another blocking frame or Wire frame again I will die happy. Because when we got through baling then wed go to breakfast, feed and milk, turn out what we needed to, make sure the water troughs were full, unhook the baler and go buck the hay we had just finished baling. By nine it was usually pushing 85 or 90. hooked up the rake and went and wind rowed the next field or two or cut the next that needed it and then hooked back up tot the baler went in did chores, milking etc took a bath and ate dinner. went to bed and dad woke us up at 2 am or so to do it all again. And yes, if I close my eyes I can still remember the sound of both the H popping along and that Damn Wisconsin 4 cylinder screaming in my ear as sis and I would holler at each other as we hand tied each and every bale. I always road the left so the exhaust was on my side. That little round piece of tin that looked like a messed up trumpet bell. Well you guys who were around them know what I am talking about. Happy New Year. LarryT

Tony in SD · Dec 31, 2010

Our baler was PTO driven. But what we did have was an Oliver swather, I think a 502, with a Wisconsin engine on it. The engine sat beside me on my right side. Im pretty sure it caused at least partial deafness in my right ear. But I can still here it rattling in my mind 40 years later.

Tim(nj) · Jan 1, 2011

Early attempt at centerline design. I didn't know any of those survived!

Nathaniel Watts · Jan 2, 2011

Here are some pics of my 76.

Nathaniel Watts · Jan 2, 2011

And my 77.

MT in Walford · Mar 12, 2012

Bill Stockman in Oxford Iowa has a NH 76 and 77 and super 77. You can see the 76 here. When those top plungers quit it was time for the needles to work to tire the bale. Bill is looking for a NH model 73 and 75 I think. Here is the link of the video I took...I hope it works.

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MT in Walford · Mar 12, 2012

trying with the weblink for the video again.

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sideconsole4020guy · Mar 12, 2012

My Grandpa had 2 of the super 77s that he did custom baling with, both had the wisconsin engines on them, he wore both of them balers out doing custom bailing with his 1946 JD A, in the summer the football players would come and throw bales for a work out, which my dad liked because it meant he didnt have to, The balers are long gone but we still have the A because it was the only tractor he bought new

Anonymous-0 · Jan 17, 2014

Reading some past articles. Can relate. Happened to me this past fall.Went to start it and the crank stuck, but never went into orbit. dived for cover and snuck up behind it and killed the mag. Found this baler within 30 miles from us after driving to Kansas 2 weeks earlier to look at one that needed total restoration. On a quest. My dad customed farmed with one years ago. The one we now own came to life after 2 hours of TLC. Great original condition and came with a original New Holland fitted tarp.Baled loose straw the next day to try her out. By the way, put a Wico magneto on. Advise by my 80 plus year Dad.

F30 · Mar 4, 2016

Are you still looking for one to restore. We have a 76 with apron and wisconsin motor.

chuck2015 · Mar 5, 2016

(quoted from post at 23:10:41 01/01/11) Here are some pics of my 76.

Do you have any plans to restore this baler to its original condition? Looks like a great old antique.

tim52160 · Mar 6, 2016

My neighbor had the model 80. I kept thinking 82 but guess that is wrong. I dont remember the sound of it because I was so young but do remember those wire tied bales were something else for someone as young as i was. He sold it before he retired. Thought it was around this area on a couple different farms till it sold to a scrapper i believe at the last farms auction.

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