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Allis-Chalmers hay rake

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07-23-2010 05:51:35

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Was wondering if most parts essential to keeping a rake in working condition are still available for the A-Cs. Would I be better off getting a New Holland? Hate to buy something and down the road realize the part I need is obsolete. Also, how well do the belt driven rakes work? Are they pretty durable? Thanks.

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07-23-2010 10:03:26

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to orangepower, 07-23-2010 05:51:35  
I have a 78G rake, teeth are the same as the NH 56 uses, the other parts that I've needed, not many, I've been able to get at the local dealer.
The belt is a lot quieter than the drive shaft types that I've been around. If you have a old AC dealer in your area I'd say you would be fine with it.

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07-23-2010 07:48:27

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to orangepower, 07-23-2010 05:51:35  
I;ve got an old pto driven one, I use it mainly to ted & have a new rake to windrow. I really like it but it is big & heavy. I've heard parts are obsolete but haven't tried to order anything for it yet.

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07-23-2010 07:36:31

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to orangepower, 07-23-2010 05:51:35  
I used one of those ACs years ago and it worked OK, tedding part was not really effective on our uneven land. I would have to say that parts availability could not be good considering how long since they built them. I would buy it and use it if the price were say, $300 or less, knowing that I could be looking for a replacement at any time.

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07-23-2010 06:09:12

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to orangepower, 07-23-2010 05:51:35  

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07-23-2010 06:08:02

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to orangepower, 07-23-2010 05:51:35  
I don't know much about the Orange Allis stuff but I do know how common the NH hay equipment is at least in this part of the US. In my area close to 90% of hay equipment carries the NH name. I haven't found any problems with obtaining parts for my NH equipment except most of the sheet metal for my NH 273 1969 square baler can only be found in salvage yards. NH items are very common in the salvage yards since they are around here in large numbers. On item I ran into recently doing a restoration on a late 1950's IH PTO driven 2 point fast hitch hay rake are the clips which are used to attach the tines to the rake bars. CaseIH wants $4.00 and change each and I can buy a box of 25 NH clips at the Co-op store for slightly more then $8.00. Quite a little bit of savings when the rake uses 100 of them. I wouldn't consider anything except NH hay equipment but it may be different in your area with dealership support and parts availability, Hal.

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Keith Molden

07-23-2010 07:25:38

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to farmallhal, 07-23-2010 06:08:02  
Had an AC PTO driven one several years ago when I was farming full time. Loved it, you could ted with it then rake too. Only problem was you had to be very careful on rough ground (more so than most other rakes) the gear box would break pretty easily. Wish I could find one around here now, I'd buy it. Keith

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07-24-2010 08:45:46

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to Keith Molden, 07-23-2010 07:25:38  
I don"t understand the part about breaking the gear box- there is a slip clutch on them. We used on be through the 50s, and other than replacing teeth, the only repair was the pin connecting the main shaft to the basket. Miserable place to get in to to replace, but using an engine valve for a pin solved that.

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07-23-2010 11:41:12

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to Keith Molden, 07-23-2010 07:25:38  
Where's 'here?' I have 1 working and 1 for parts I might sell together, but I'm in New Jersey.

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Keith Molden

07-23-2010 14:03:59

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 Re: Allis-Chalmers hay rake in reply to Tim(nj), 07-23-2010 11:41:12  
I'm located in S.E. Ohio. Let me know your price. My email's open. Keith

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