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custom round baling

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kippster

07-13-2010 08:24:22
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Just out of curiosity, what are some of you charging for custom round baling? I did some trading with a fellow to have 19 round bales made and I'm just trying to figure out if it was worthwhile or if I should just buy my bales. 4x5 round bales of orchard grass are going for 16 bucks a piece around here. (northwest pa) Thanks Kippster




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TAZDOG

07-16-2010 21:50:02
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
cut and bale in south east nebraska i run around 1.50 for small squares not picked up 25 per bale to pickup and stack
rounds run around 15.00 to 20.00 cut and bale



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TX BP

07-16-2010 08:22:26
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
I CHARGE 20 A BALE FOR 4X5 NET WRAP BALES IN NORTH TEXAS, THATS FOR EVERY THING, CHARGE 1.00 MORE FOR MOVING THEM OUT OF FIELD



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Tx Jim

07-16-2010 03:58:03
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to haymaker421, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  

JDseller said: (quoted from post at 01:31:11 07/15/10) Mowing $15 per acre

Raking $10 per acre

Baling $1 per foot of diameter plus $5

6 x 1 = 6 + 5= $11 per bale
Hay full three wraps of mesh

Corn stalks: 2 wraps of mesh, Have baled 750 bales in fifteen hours several times.


Why do you do all the calculations instead of just a price for the complete job?

Why do you put less wraps on shredded cornstalks as they can blow up like a bomb went off if wrap tears?

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JDseller

07-16-2010 22:16:42
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to Tx Jim, 07-16-2010 03:58:03  
I don't have any two customers that want the same thing, hardly. I came up with this formula and have it printed up on the back of my business cards. That way the customer can roughly figure out what he wants. The two wraps of mesh on stalks??? Main reason is cost of the wrap. You use a third less. Also most of the guys I bale for use these bale processors. They want as little mesh as possible and still hold the bale together. They don't remove the mesh before the processor. So they want less to wrap up inside of the processor. On my own I use three wraps. Now I don't use the cover-edge on stalks. I usually bed by setting my bales on end in the pen and then remove the mesh by hand. Then spread the bale with my skid-steer. I baled one year with the cover-edge mesh. When you stand the bale on end three or four inch's is under the bale. You have a he!! of a time getting it all out.

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JDseller

07-16-2010 22:19:42
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to JDseller, 07-16-2010 22:16:42  
Many of my customers don't want a six foot tall bale. They want a four to five foot ones to handle with their smaller tractors or fewer animals want to have fresh hay more often.



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JDseller

07-14-2010 22:31:11
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
Mowing $15 per acre
Raking $10 per acre
Baling $1 per foot of diameter plus $5
6 x 1 = 6 + 5= $11 per bale
Fifty bale minimum, Hay full three wraps of mesh
Will not do twine. My current baler never has had twine in it.
Corn stalks: shredding $20 per acre, raked and baled $10 per bale 2 wraps of mesh, hundred bale minimum. Will not rake or bale non shredded stalks. Have baled 750 bales in fifteen hours several times. I bale between 10 to 13 thousand stalk bales a year. The stalks and dirt wear equipment out fast. A round baler will only last for a few years and the sides are worn out.

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Larryt

07-14-2010 07:12:33
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
I bail 60-75 pound square bales. To cut, rake and bale I charge $35.00 per hour and $1.50 per bale. Plus travel time. What I ran into out west here in New Mexico, was a lot of fields with low yield and it takes me just as long to cut and rake a low yield field as it does a high yield one.



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Tom-TX

07-14-2010 16:16:10
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to Larryt, 07-14-2010 07:12:33  
You get 1.50 per sm sq bale AND on top of that you charge 35 per hour?? PLUS travel time?? How can that be? You would not get any work here in North Central Texas at those rates. Tom



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Tx Jim

07-14-2010 03:54:57
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to Tom in TN, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
I've been custom baling for over 20 yrs. To cut,rake and bale I charge $20 per bale with a 2 bale per acre minimum. To rake & bale if someone else cuts it I charge $12 per bale. I won't bale bale that someone else rakes without me re-raking it !!!!!!!!
As high as equipment,parts,netwrap & fuel I don't see making any profit on less per bale.

I charge $1 more per bale if customer requests twine instead of net. Netwrap is 25% faster than twine.

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thurlow

07-13-2010 15:05:30
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
Usta do a good bit of custom baling with a 6 x 5 baler, but it's been a while. Around 'here', everyone got half the value of the bale to cut, rake and bale. Standard price for a long time was $20.00, so cut/rake/bale was $10.00. As the value of the hay went up, so did the custom work...........staying at half the value of the bale. I've also baled it 'on the halves'.



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Jerry/MT

07-13-2010 12:01:23
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
I just paid $17 per acre to mow, $7 per acre to rake and $9.50 a bale to bale.



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kyhayman

07-13-2010 11:52:04
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
4x5's I charge 12.00 to roll it, 12.00 to cut and rake, or 20.00 if I do it all. Fuel surcharge is 2.00 per bale for each 1.00 per gallon over 3 that diesel is or fuel credit is the same if its under 2.00 per gallon. Forty bale minimum. Any less than that and I'm staying at the house. Thats down from a few years ago reflecting lower fuel costs and the economy. I'm not getting rich by any means. It takes me about 2 gallons of fuel per round bale by the time I do everything and includes my travel and fuel. Some years, like this one so far thats pretty good money, years like last year where I had to buy an engine, rebuild a turbocharger, a rear tractor tire, and 3 front tractor tires I'm not making a whole lot.

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greyhorse

07-13-2010 10:06:58
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
It"s $25 to cut, rake, and bale here. 4X5 net wrapped, that"s why I do my own now. I"m thinking they were charging $10-$15 just to roll it up a couple years ago but I don"t pay much attention any more. Bales usually sell for $40-$65.



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Matt S Illinois

07-13-2010 09:32:01
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
Here in Illinois I pay $10-12 for net wrapped with a big Vermer. The guy doesn't like doing string with it. He says it takes longer to wrap them than with net. Matt



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M Nut

07-13-2010 09:52:51
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to Matt S Illinois, 07-13-2010 09:32:01  
That is true. Basically two revolutions of the bale to wrap with net and more like 20 revolutions to wrap with twine. When doing 100's or 1,000's of bales a year, that idle time waiting for twine to wrap adds up quick.



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M Nut

07-13-2010 09:25:58
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to kippster, 07-13-2010 08:24:22  
I try not to do any because it usually ends up being a hassle in the long run, but for what little I do end up doing I charge $8 per bale for 5x5 twine tied bales, and I insist that the windrows be at least 3ft wide and 2ft high. I'm not going to run my baler all over the field chasing little single turned rows of hay.
I don't think $8 is too much as my dad paid $5 per bale to have his rolled up 30 years ago.

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gary in neb.

07-13-2010 09:30:37
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to M Nut, 07-13-2010 09:25:58  
in northeast nebraska it's been between 8 and 10.00 per bale to cut and bale.



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M Nut

07-13-2010 09:50:13
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to gary in neb., 07-13-2010 09:30:37  
Really? Wow, if I could hire my hay cut and baled for $10 a bale I'd be all over that offer. I wouldn't own and maintain equipment for that kind of money. I don't know how they can be covering basic operating costs let alone making a little something for their time.
That is interesting.



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gary in neb.

07-13-2010 09:52:35
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to M Nut, 07-13-2010 09:50:13  
i agree thats why i dont do it. it's cost me 6.25 to make a bale for myself, that includes cutting so i'm worth more then 2.00 a bale



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M Nut

07-13-2010 09:54:02
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 Re: custom round baling in reply to gary in neb., 07-13-2010 09:52:35  
Yep, I sure agree with you there.



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