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Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help!

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BrandonH

12-05-2009 19:55:17
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I have obtained an old farm wagon made by Electric Wheel Co out of Quincy, Ohio I think it is. Problem in the wheels are rusted through but the rest is in excellent shape. Im haveving a hard time find that right wheel pattern. They're 6 lug with 7in pattern. Could the hubs be interchanged to the popular universal farm type like most bailers/wagons use? I can change them. Just wondered if there is a certain kind that fits. Or if anyone else has a EW Wagon and has done the same. Thanks

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Don-Wi

01-15-2010 06:03:34
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
I've gotta admit I forgo about them for a little while, but I was planning to make it to the farm this weekend to pul the one out of our shed to weigh it, and look at the ruinning gear to see how hard it'll be to fish out of the snow. My worst fear is that the wagon is frozen down. If it's frozen down too hard it may not come out until March or April.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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brandonh

01-18-2010 20:14:35
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 01-15-2010 06:03:34  

What is te big difference in the tie-rod steer type wagons verses this type. Do these travel very well? Im wanting to fix it up. It extends close to 20ft. Will make a huge hay wagon



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Don-Wi

12-09-2009 19:45:37
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
Honestly not sure where he lives. Never been down there and don;t see him too much. Last seen him when my brother died in march 2008.

Next time I'm at the farm, I'll see if I can get the rim out of the shed and get a weight on it. The rest are still bolted to the running gear, which is probably buried in a 4' drift right now.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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brandonh

12-09-2009 19:52:41
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-09-2009 19:45:37  
no problem. I dont plan needing a wagon until spring anyway. But I definetly need those rims! Just let me know whenver you figure someting out. If the snow ever melts!



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Banditfarmer

12-09-2009 18:43:15
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
I had one of those wagons years ago and had the same problem lack of rims , so we made some by cutting the center out by the rim, took a 3/4 ton rim from a chevy truck cut the center out and welding the other center in it. It held up 175 bu gravity bed for years. If you are good with a torch and welder you should not have any trouble. May not be pretty but it will work. Good Luck



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Don-Wi

12-09-2009 18:15:59
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
I have 1 bare rim in the shed, but the other 3 would need the tires removed if we were to ship them. I didn't realize that the posts went ontyo a second page (in modern view) so I didn't see that you actually did post where you're from. If my uncle came and visited us anytime soon, I'd just have him bring them along when he went home- he lives near the Kentucky/Tenesee border in Kentucky. Of course that still covers a few miles, but it'd be that much closer.
Maybe someone here can help us out if they're making a trip.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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brandonh

12-09-2009 19:01:56
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-09-2009 18:15:59  
I would gladly pay you to remove the tires and ship them. Take a saw saw to them tires! Im desperated at this point lol Where at in KY does your uncle live. Im about 25 miles from the KY line



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Don-Wi

12-09-2009 14:51:58
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
That is the EXACT rim we have on one of our wagons, and a jackknifed one out back that we can't use. I found one spare rim in a junk yard too, so I grabbed it and put it in the shed.
You didn't say where you're located, but I would think we could part with 2 or 4 rims. We have tossed around the idea of turning just the back 1/2 into a trailer, but that probably won't happen. Right now, we've got 4 extra rims besides our spare that we have for the wagon.



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brandonh

12-09-2009 16:24:27
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-09-2009 14:51:58  
Im in Tennessee Donavan. Im definelty interested in working something out if you want to part with them. All four of mine are rusted out. They guy I got it from never did anything with it. He said when he got it was setting in a field with mud and stuff about halfway up the wheels. So they are all shot.



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RickB

12-09-2009 15:42:06
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-09-2009 14:51:58  
The Deere hubs/wheels I was thinking of had a much larger bolt circle and center pilot hole. Never seen those critters before.



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brandonh

12-09-2009 15:35:26
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-09-2009 14:51:58  
im all the way in Tennessee. I wished I was closer I would definetly buy them. Nice wagon by the way



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RickB

12-09-2009 15:40:17
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 They deliver in TN, too. in reply to brandonh, 12-09-2009 15:35:26  
They would probably UPS for less than you would expect. USPS parcel post may be even less.



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Don-Wi

12-07-2009 19:56:51
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
Where are you located? Do your rims have solid centers, or do they have a hole through them? We've got a hay wagon with a Better Bilt running gear (Dad says Bowe, but I swear the tags on the toungues used to say Better Bilt) that has a larger 6 bolt pattern w/ solid centers. Never measured the bolt pattern, but it just might be 7". We have an old running gear behind the shed that's the same thing that jack knifed.

How many rims do you need? We have a few extras that we might be able to get rid of. Would need to measure them. They're 16", and I think 6" or 8" wide. I'm located in NE Wisconsin. I'm in Hilbert, farm is in Kaukauna.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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brandonh

12-08-2009 19:29:06
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-07-2009 19:56:51  
im in Tennessee by the way Donavan



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brandonh

12-08-2009 10:05:27
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Don-Wi, 12-07-2009 19:56:51  

Yes! They are the solid center wheels. Im to the point Im ready to change the hubs but Im not sure if just any hub fill fit. Maybe this picture will help.



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Leroy

12-08-2009 18:23:32
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to brandonh, 12-08-2009 10:05:27  
Did not know any of the Electric Wheel Co. gears ysed that type of wheel and hub. That is the same wheel as on a wagon that I have that was made in Troy, Ohio in 1946. I do not know the name of the company, I just called it the Troy wagon all the time. My uncle bought it new the same time as Dad bought a new Sears wagon that I still have as well. The Hobart welders built in Troy, Ohio and put on a trailer cart used the same wheel. The Coop gears used a wheel that was similar but it was 5 lugs instead of 6. Those 6 lug wheels are all 16" and they like to split the rims, 3 of mine are welded where they split and the 4th wheel we turned the center disk and welded a 15" rim on that disk. I know a person (used to be Ford tractor dealer in Troy) that years ago told be the name of the company in Troy that made those gears but I did not get it written down and cannot remember what it was.

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Tim(nj)

12-08-2009 10:26:49
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to brandonh, 12-08-2009 10:05:27  
Go to www.balsters.net they have a chart that may help you find other hubs to fit that gear should you go that route.



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504-1

12-06-2009 19:22:09
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
Quincy IL in business as Titian Wheel Int.( The people that own Goodyear off road tires)



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BrandonH

12-06-2009 19:43:08
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to 504-1, 12-06-2009 19:22:09  
yea Ive already done the research. Like I said its got some wierd wheel setup. Their a 6 lug 7in bolt pattern. Just wondering if anyone has done any modifications



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BrandonH

12-06-2009 06:55:29
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
mine is a model 500. and yall are right it is illinois.



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JayinnY

12-06-2009 06:23:51
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
I have a Electric wheels running gear under a hay wagon kicker rack, I put on a implement wheel and it wrrked fine. The same wheel also fit the front of my Ford tractor, and my old IH hay baler. J



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dboll

12-06-2009 06:10:06
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
I had a 5026 Electric gear wit 6 bolt hubs that I put 16 inch rims on and had no problem buying new rims. Any good farm tire dealer should be able yo get them, just measure the off set, 6 bolt ag rims are pretty much universal



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B W in MO

12-06-2009 06:02:52
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
I think that was made in Quincey Ill, and think they are still in business making wheels. I just take the center out of the bad rim replace rim part with a used one from junk yard. Takes a little time buuut our time is not worth much when working on our own things. B W



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Leroy

12-06-2009 06:02:24
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to BrandonH, 12-05-2009 19:55:17  
The company is NOT from Quincy, Ohio (I live just a few miles from there) but Quincy, Ill and what I had took the standard 5 lug wheels as did all I ever heard of in all the brands they made the gears for.



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RickB

12-07-2009 03:05:53
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Leroy, 12-06-2009 06:02:24  
5 lug wheels are for light duty gears. 6 and 8 lug hubs & wheels are out there as well on many Electric Wheel gears. Apparently the OP has oddballs hub on his. You guys need to read the OP and realize that stuff exists that you haven't actually seen. I think I have seen oddball six hole hubs/wheels like this on a couple Deere running gears years ago.



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Tim(nj)

12-07-2009 06:59:08
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to RickB, 12-07-2009 03:05:53  
Yes, Deere liked to use wheels where the bolt circle is the same as a standard 6-bolt wheel, but the center hole is smaller. Kept you captive for parts that way.



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Tim(nj)

12-06-2009 10:49:13
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Leroy, 12-06-2009 06:02:24  
I have two Allis-Chalmers gearsmade by Electric that have 6-bolt hubs.



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BrandonH

01-14-2010 17:40:55
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 Re: Electric Wheel Co Wagon Help! in reply to Tim(nj), 12-06-2009 10:49:13  
hey Donavan. Did has te snow melted up there yet? Just wondered if you ever had a chance to check on those wheels.



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