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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

small square bale loaders

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Ron-MO

03-10-2008 07:53:44
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Does anyone have any information (pics or recommendations would be helpful). I am looking to buy a square bale loader (runs along beside trailer/wagon, and picks up bales), and trying to gather some info or information on where to locate. Like most everything there is always some to stay away from, and I don't want to find one then go back to hand loading. I have been baling approx 2400 squares a year, all by hand, and would like to speed the process some due to increased demand and price. I probably cannot afford the accumulators (although I know that is a good way to go). I found a loaded yesterday that rode along beside the trailer for $250, but did not get there fast enough to pick it up and someone beat me to the punch by an hour or so. I am located in south central MO, and would appreciate any info on where to start my search.

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UncleD

03-11-2008 21:44:15
64.91.15.146



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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to ArleninOr, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
I know where a couple are for sale, US 60 & U hwy in Webster county Missouri. Close to Fordland. They're in rough shape from what I've seen. not sure if you're looking for a fix-er-upper or one that's ready to go.



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Ron in AR

03-11-2008 17:40:38
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  

Here's what mine looks like. Not a very good pic, but you should get the idea. Have no idea of the brand name, couldn't find any marking anywhere on it. I bought it for $75.00. Was all rusted and in the brush. The bottoms of the wheels were rusted off, so I had to make up a new set of rims, slapped on some paint, oiled it up, and it works great. You can have the bales laying any way and it will still pick them up. I added the small wheels on the front. It had skids, but tended to dig in if you turned too sharp. The small wheels work much better. I use it either beside a trailer, or hooked right to the truck.

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Kanuck

03-11-2008 18:15:29
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron in AR, 03-11-2008 17:40:38  
Hey, looks like a pretty slick setup! Is the elevator ground driven somehow?



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Ron in AR

03-12-2008 16:20:09
69.19.14.30



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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Kanuck, 03-11-2008 18:15:29  
Yep, ground driven. The wheels have lock-outs on them to drive or freewheel for transport. It includes a tongue that you slide in and pin to lift the front to transport to the next field. There is a chain and sprocket set-up from the axle to the top of the conveyor which runs the shaft to turn the conveyor chain. It is very much like a regular bale conveyor chain. At the bottom is a double chain set-up about three feet long and about six inches apart that helps to pull the bale onto the conveyor fairly straight. So long as you get a pretty straight shot at the bale, it usually goes without any problems. At the top is a rail that turns the bale to the side where it sits till you pull it off or until the next bale pushes it onto the truck or trailer. If the driver goes at a steady pace, it really keeps the stacking person busy! With the set-up pictured, we were able to load about 100 bales in around 45 minutes (including the occasional "Take five!" to get a drink of water and catch your breath). Not bad for a two person crew. That is me driving and my brother-in-law stacking. He liked it much better when it was his turn to drive!

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John S-B

03-11-2008 14:24:55
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
http://www.tractorshed.com/gallery/tphotos/a104543.jpg

This what Virgil730 was talking about. I love this set up as I am almost always working alone. Saves having to find a pay helpers. I got mine (EZ Trail brand) for $1800 used, they're around $3K new. There's only a couple of hinged parts to lube with silicone and the wheel bearings to worry about. I can get about 100 bales in before I have to dump the load.

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John S-B

03-11-2008 14:26:08
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to John S-B, 03-11-2008 14:24:55  

Oops, put the url in the wrong place.



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JMS/.MN

03-11-2008 07:14:59
209.237.107.155



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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
It"s not hard to build one. Dad made one in the 50s, using a car rear axle and transmission to drive a single chain conveyor that loaded the bales. It was pull-type, between the tractor and wagon. First one he made mounted on a WC, and was pto driven, but the pull-type was handier- easy to hook up for even one load, rather than mounting the other one.



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Lee in Iowa

03-11-2008 05:38:40
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
All the ones that were used around had to have all the bales turned the right way I think on the narrow side. So usually you had to have someone walk ahead and turn the bales the right way. So if somebody has to walk they just as well pickup the bales unless you have a younger kid that isn't big enough to pick them up but can turn them. The other bad thing is they will dump chaff down the back of your neck until you get stacked up so high. Lee

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Dean in iowa

03-10-2008 21:11:44
65.54.154.115



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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
I have one. Works good. used it last summer for shows. It is like the one in the picture. if interested e-mail me for more info.



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430WLPG

03-10-2008 19:17:46
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
Those loaders are not hard to hookup the ones I used just had a arm that hooked over in a stake pocket on the truck or trailer, took maybe 30 seconds to hook or unhook. and there were two popular models around here , one was like the one in the picure and one they called a Popup loader and the bale went straight up and popped over on the traler, one guy could load 10-15 then stop and stack, if you had to, the ones like in the picture that we ran, needed someone there to take it off or sometimes it would cut the twine and sometimes it would cut it anyway

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730virgil

03-10-2008 17:55:11
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
have you ever thought about a bale basket?
friend of mine has one and loves it. his dad pulls it behind hay baler, when he gets basket full he takes it to barn dumps basket and heads back to field. as dad is making small squares scott will make round bales. they will put bales in barn later in day after temps have started to go down.



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Dave Sherburne NY

03-10-2008 14:20:19
74.37.254.164



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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  

Here you go, a little time a little money. Build your own



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Chris in MO

03-11-2008 19:09:29
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 03-10-2008 14:20:19  
Dave Sherburne

Thank you for the very useful link. Will be very helpful this summer, I am sure.

Christopher



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Tom from Ontario

03-10-2008 11:53:04
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
Ever thought of a stooker? Don't see them around here anymore but at one time, that's all you saw. Yes, it's an extra trip through the field, but when you bale and stook, there is some weather protection, you can make up a fork for the loader which will save your back, just levelling on the wagon. We used to bale and stook up to 2000 on a good day and unloading was a matter of how many teenaged heros you could talk into working in the barn.
Thing about stookers and stook loaders, you're good to go for about $300, at auction around here they are scrap. Allied had a pretty fair automatic stooker if you are on flatter ground.
If you find one, get it with hydraulic drive.
Good luck.

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Ron-MO

03-10-2008 13:08:44
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Tom from Ontario, 03-10-2008 11:53:04  
I did a little Internet search for these, and must admit I have never heard of them. I will keep an eye out, but I have been around haying all my life (48 years) and never saw one or heard of them until now. Somehow I doubt I will be able to find one. Then again I have never laid eyes on one of the bale loaders either. Just not very popular in this region. Everyone used to use teenagers to load/haul the bales. Nearly impossible now and the reason I am looking. Right now it is me and the wife or it does not get done. She drives, I throw them on, then stack on trailer or wagon, then we unload and stack in the barn. I work a full time job during the day, so needless to say I need any edge I can get. Guess I can say I enjoy it, but you probably will not hear me say that when it is 90 degrees out with 90 percent humidity.

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johns48jdb

03-10-2008 11:03:50
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
i don't know if i would want one of those things or not. they take up quite a bit of time hooking and unhooking. i'd rather have several trailers that i could load by hand and just set under a shed until i could get them unloaded than anything else. i always wanted to build a one wheel trailer that set flat on the ground and just set down on a couple of simple holes that were on the side of a trailer or truck. i would have put a person on that and let them snag the bales as the truck went by and throw it on the truck. either way yhou still have to stack it. i use to cut and bale for the public and there has been a many a day when if i had spent and extra hour driving to a barn a ways from the field or didn't have trailers to stack the hay on, that the baled hay would get wet. you can take a ton truck, build a rack over the cab to stack hay on and drive it straight into the loft of a barn and have a place to unload the hay from real ease. one guy on the bed of the truck throwing to the guy on the rack and you don't have to throw the hay very high. never pick up a bale and stand there and hold it. always know where your going with it before you pick it up. i know labor is hard to find, but i've seen the day when me and one guy hauled and stacked 500 bales in a barn that was 25 miles away from the field. farming is hard work and if you aren't willing to work at it you have no business in it at all. no need in being stupid about it either though. there is always an easeway to do things if you'll just look.

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Josh in WNY

03-10-2008 07:59:28
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
If you can't find a bale loader like you are talking about, another option might be a bale wagon (made by New Holland). They pick up the bale when it is laying on edge in the field and put it in a stack that you can set off all at once.

Being in MO, you might have an easier time finding one than me (I'm in western NY). They were used a lot more in the mid-west.

Good luck.

Josh in WNY



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Josh in WNY

03-10-2008 07:58:58
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 Re: small square bale loaders in reply to Ron-MO, 03-10-2008 07:53:44  
If you can't find a bale loader like you are talking about, another option might be a bale wagon (made by New Holland). They pick up the bale when it is laying on edge in the field and put it in a stack that you can set off all at once.

Being in MO, you might have an easier time finding one than me (I'm in western NY). They were used a lot more in the mid-west.

Good luck.

Josh in WNY



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