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4 row planter on a disked field

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BobinKY

11-12-2007 18:05:28




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I would like to put some corn, wheat, sunflower seeds or whatever in rows in the future on my hobby farm. I am basically planting them for feed crop. There is a John Deer 4 row planter available locally and I was wondering if you guys think I could use this planter after disking my field to about 4 or 5 inches in depth. I have no desire to plow this field as it grows rocks like crazy. I really don't know that much about it but I have heard guys on here talk about planting and drilling. I would really like to understand the difference. Thanks for any help for this novice.

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GeneMO

11-13-2007 10:45:10




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
You didn't mention how many acres you are working with.

Also what are you feeding and how many?

If you are just feeding a few animals you may be dollars ahead buying feed. Machinery is expensive and prone to break down. Seed, Fertilizer, fuel and herbicides are going to be sky high next spring.

Then you have to harvest, store, and process the grain to feed. If you value your time at all this can all impact your decision.

Just my 2 cents worth, Gene

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Dick L

11-13-2007 10:37:11




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
I think I would use roundup and then a field cultivator rather than a disk for the seed bed. Rocks show a dislike for disk blades and they are expensive and take a lot of time to change. Field cultivator shanks can break on rocks as well but for the most part will jump over or around them without breaking.



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BobinKY

11-13-2007 05:50:48




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
Thanks for the replies folks. I think the planter would be a good choice in my situation. In the rare event that I want to drill wheat or alfalfa, I can get a free drill from the state. You folks have been a lot of help, as always.



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johns48jdb

11-14-2007 19:19:56




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-13-2007 05:50:48  
if you have that many rocks you need clod knockers for your planter. they will lock surface rocks and clods out of the way of the knives on the planter.



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dobber

11-12-2007 22:29:22




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
Most older row crop planters are unit types that are mounted on tool bars and you can loosen and adjust row planter units on the tool bar for row spacing you want with corn, sunflowers, beets, beans or other large grains or even vegetables if you get the right seed plates for spacing of seeds. Row units will have gear changes also and some older ones require changing sprockets to do that for seed spacing. With a grain drill you'll mostly want it for planting smaller grains and if it is type of drill with fertilizer box and grass seeder box better yet and more versatile. You can remove some disk or hoe openers on drills and plug some of the seed cups for wider spacing rows but like with corn or larger seeds you just won't get the accuracy of seed spacing as you would with a row unit planter made for such. For just small acreage you might get by with just a drill and spacing won't matter as much if just for feed plots anyway.

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georgeky

11-12-2007 20:41:46




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
The planter will work on disked ground for the most part. For the wheat a seed sower or grain drill will work fine. There are plates for planting sunflowers with corn planters. May find a set on ebay sometime. There are three types of old planters. Drill(Not grain drill) which is just for planting in rows with seeds placed fairly close together. Then a check row which uses knotted wire and plants a seed at a measured interval, and lines up with previous row. This allows cutivating in any direction . Then a power hill drop planter which plants several seeds in hills so many inches or feet apart in a row. You would want to plant corn with a drill planter. I hope this helps make a little sence out of it. I am not the best at explaining this stuff.

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johns48jdb

11-12-2007 18:19:53




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
drilling is when you use a grain drill to plant alot of seeds fairlu close togehter in rows that are about 7 inches apart. good for wheat and some soybeans are planted using a drill, but usually spaced a little more apart. planters are for corn, cotton and other crops that need to be harvested with a picker vs a combine. now a combline can be used to pick either drilled crops or crops planted in rows if the use a header that is made for rows. a combine header that has a reel on it is made to combine drilled crops like wheat. if you don't plan on cultivating a crop then you need to use a sprayer to spray weed killers so you don't have to cultivate. i'm not up to the latest on chemical farming, but the local guys spray a complete burn off in the spring and just use a no till drill or planter to plant with without tilling the ground in any way. so you need to decide several things before you invest in equipment.

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Leroy

11-12-2007 18:19:16




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 Re: 4 row planter on a disked field in reply to BobinKY, 11-12-2007 18:05:28  
Drilling means in rows 6-7-8 or 10" apart and drills are designed for smaller seeds like the wheat, planters are designed for rows of 30" to 40" apart and larger seed like corn or beans. Some of the new plateless planters will plant wheat but not the older planters, then the planters are set on 30" rows with a bean spliter for 15" rows. Sunflower I have no Idea what that seed is like.



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